Language pedants

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Re: Language pedants

Postby tod28 » 25 Jun 2019, 11:39am

fausto copy wrote:
I would have liked to have heard his comments but even if there's a chance of a repeat, sadly being a deaf old stone, it'd be no use for me. :roll:

fausto.


The episode is available on the R2 website but unfortunately no transcript.

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Re: Language pedants

Postby Ash28 » 25 Jun 2019, 11:56am

I can cycle 100 miles in a day. I can take a bike apart ,put it back together and maintain it. I have lots of other skills.
Sadly my English is rubbish (grade 3 CSE) and it puts me off posting stuff knowing it will be criticised.
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Re: Language pedants

Postby Oldjohnw » 25 Jun 2019, 11:58am

Ash28 wrote:I can cycle 100 miles in a day. I can take a bike apart ,put it back together and maintain it. I have lots of other skills.
Sadly my English is rubbish (grade 3 CSE) and it puts me off posting stuff knowing it will be criticised.



Post makes perfect sense to me.
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Re: Language pedants

Postby reohn2 » 25 Jun 2019, 1:38pm

Oldjohnw wrote:
Ash28 wrote:I can cycle 100 miles in a day. I can take a bike apart ,put it back together and maintain it. I have lots of other skills.
Sadly my English is rubbish (grade 3 CSE) and it puts me off posting stuff knowing it will be criticised.



Post makes perfect sense to me.

And me.

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Re: Language pedants

Postby fausto copy » 25 Jun 2019, 2:10pm

It's amazing what one can do with the English language.
I passed an English Literature exam without reading one book.
I recounted some of the comments from discussions in the classroom and wrote a load of waffle.

Some may say nothing's changed. :mrgreen:

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Re: Language pedants

Postby Bez » 25 Jun 2019, 4:06pm

pwa wrote:I'm waiting for someone to invent a radio that detects when a song has finished playing and goes straight to another song, cutting out the DJ, the ads and the jingles.


Try Internet radio. Plenty of stations with no DJs, and often minimal ads and jingles.

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Re: Language pedants

Postby Mick F » 25 Jun 2019, 4:07pm

I did well at school, five O Levels.
Geography, Maths, Metalwork, Physics, Tech Drawing.
English, I flunked. Really badly. :lol:

As an adult, I took it again, and passed easily.
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Re: Language pedants

Postby sjs » 25 Jun 2019, 4:35pm

slowster wrote:
kwackers wrote:Despite what I said above I don't usually have much of a problem with spelling, correctness of grammar etc - although either can 'trip' me up whilst reading.
The proviso is of course that I can actually understand the meaning behind the words.

pwa wrote:I would liken the the quality and precision of written English to the quality and precision of interior decorating. It is very satisfying when you see it done well, without blobs in the paintwork or inaccurate wallpapering, but when all is said and done it is not that important.

Mistakes are inevitable in a medium like a public internet forum, and they rarely prevent my understanding what the writer meant. However, I always think that while I might understand it, there may be others who will not, e.g. people whose first language is not English or who have dyslexia or a similar condition. So I think it is important to try to avoid spelling and punctuation mistakes and to try to say what I mean as clearly and concisely as possible.

I am always impressed by those who post detailed explanations on the Bikes and Bits board of something which is technically complex and difficult to communicate in written words, especially without photographs. Those posters have obviously gone to some trouble to compose their post in order to communicate their meaning as accurately, precisely and concisely as possible. In doing so they show a great deal of consideration, courtesy and respect for their potential readers.

Whilst the Tea Shop is a place for more general discussion and chat, it is still communication using the written word, but some posters have little respect for the reader judging by their posts: this forum is just a virtual megaphone for them and the rest of us are just their audience.

kwackers wrote:There are two folk on here who off the top of my head often have me scratching my noggin trying to figure out exactly what it is they're talking about, my 'gut feeling' being it's often not what I think.

My impression is that those posters like the sound of their own (written) voice more than actually trying to communicate with the potential readers. I think they confuse their verbose florid posts with literary style, when it's just a pretentious affectation which immediately prompts me to move on to the next post instead. Like careless spelling and grammar, such a posting style just shows a lack of consideration for - or even an indifference to - the reader.



I wouldn't be surprised if your two are not the same as Kwackers'.

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Re: Language pedants

Postby sjs » 25 Jun 2019, 4:42pm

Some rules, for instance to avoid split infinitives, were created relatively recently, purely in order to create a class of people who could be wrong

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Re: Language pedants

Postby kwackers » 25 Jun 2019, 4:50pm

sjs wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if your two are not the same as Kwackers'.

What me, slowster and pwa are one and the same???

It takes too much of my time just writing kwacker's posts without ghost writing other people.

This guy thinks I'm good though:
God wrote:Kwackers is ace.

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Re: Language pedants

Postby NATURAL ANKLING » 25 Jun 2019, 4:53pm

Hi,
Ash28 wrote:I can cycle 100 miles in a day. I can take a bike apart ,put it back together and maintain it. I have lots of other skills.
Sadly my English is rubbish (grade 3 CSE) and it puts me off posting stuff knowing it will be criticised.

Don't!

I can pick through bad grammar and spelling and understand what most posters means, so post away.

P.S. My English is better than yours.........................I had a 2 :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:
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Re: Language pedants

Postby NATURAL ANKLING » 25 Jun 2019, 4:58pm

Hi,
Mick F wrote:I did well at school, five O Levels.
Geography, Maths, Metalwork, Physics, Tech Drawing.
English, I flunked. Really badly. :lol:

As an adult, I took it again, and passed easily.

Mine-

Maths 1
Metalwork 1
Physics 1
Tech Drawing 2 I think
English...........2 :(
Gen Science 1

Dropped Chemistry..................meant to be second hardest behind geography?.....Put it this way I was told to not do chemistry :evil:
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Re: Language pedants

Postby hodge » 25 Jun 2019, 5:05pm

kwackers wrote:
Although I'd admit, a misplaced apostrophe on a garage sign isn't the end of the world and I'm not that bothered overall by folks written language - but if I'm struggling with their viewpoint I do sometimes find my opinion coloured somewhat if their English is poor...

Such is life. Just don't send me your CV without having it proof read first. ;)



A proofreader would place a plural possessive apostrophe after the s, in folks ie - folks' written language - and suggest the closed spelling 'proofread' rather than 'proof read', as the currently accepted norm. :wink:

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Re: Language pedants

Postby Bonefishblues » 25 Jun 2019, 5:06pm

hodge wrote:
kwackers wrote:
Although I'd admit, a misplaced apostrophe on a garage sign isn't the end of the world and I'm not that bothered overall by folks written language - but if I'm struggling with their viewpoint I do sometimes find my opinion coloured somewhat if their English is poor...

Such is life. Just don't send me your CV without having it proof read first. ;)



A proofreader would place a plural possessive apostrophe after the s, in folks ie - folks' written language - and suggest the closed spelling 'proofread' rather than 'proof read', as the currently accepted norm. :wink:

I'm comfortable with proof read in that context.

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Re: Language pedants

Postby merseymouth » 25 Jun 2019, 5:24pm

Hi folk, I left school with swimming certificates and a 100% attendance record, "I Was There"! MM