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Re: Language pedants

Postby Bez » 25 Jun 2019, 5:44pm

hodge wrote:A proofreader would place a plural possessive apostrophe after the s, in folks ie - folks' written language - and suggest the closed spelling 'proofread' rather than 'proof read', as the currently accepted norm. :wink:


Hopefully they'd also sort out the comma in the first sentence, and then come back to fix your placement of dashes and commas. And then a typographer would give you his best Paddington Stare for the use of hyphens instead of dashes.

Can of worms? Don't mind if I do. ;)

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Re: Language pedants

Postby Mick F » 25 Jun 2019, 7:45pm

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Re: Language pedants

Postby [XAP]Bob » 25 Jun 2019, 7:47pm

Bez wrote:
hodge wrote:A proofreader would place a plural possessive apostrophe after the s, in folks ie - folks' written language - and suggest the closed spelling 'proofread' rather than 'proof read', as the currently accepted norm. :wink:


Hopefully they'd also sort out the comma in the first sentence, and then come back to fix your placement of dashes and commas. And then a typographer would give you his best Paddington Stare for the use of hyphens instead of dashes.

Can of worms? Don't mind if I do. ;)

No, the designer (as they call typesetters now) would just replace them as needed - they break up every line anyway to force kerning etc...
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Re: Language pedants

Postby hodge » 25 Jun 2019, 9:37pm

Bez wrote:
hodge wrote:A proofreader would place a plural possessive apostrophe after the s, in folks ie - folks' written language - and suggest the closed spelling 'proofread' rather than 'proof read', as the currently accepted norm. :wink:


Hopefully they'd also sort out the comma in the first sentence, and then come back to fix your placement of dashes and commas. And then a typographer would give you his best Paddington Stare for the use of hyphens instead of dashes.

Can of worms? Don't mind if I do. ;)


Yes, I concur, it is a can of worms, which, really, is the point I was trying to make. My first comma is redundant, I agree, don't know what it's doing there, it's an impostor. We should remove it and put it after your very first word which is crying out for one :wink:

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Re: Language pedants

Postby slowster » 25 Jun 2019, 9:57pm

hodge wrote:
Bez wrote:
hodge wrote:A proofreader would place a plural possessive apostrophe after the s, in folks ie - folks' written language - and suggest the closed spelling 'proofread' rather than 'proof read', as the currently accepted norm. :wink:


Hopefully they'd also sort out the comma in the first sentence, and then come back to fix your placement of dashes and commas. And then a typographer would give you his best Paddington Stare for the use of hyphens instead of dashes.

Can of worms? Don't mind if I do. ;)


Yes, I concur, it is a can of worms, which, really, is the point I was trying to make. My first comma is redundant, I agree, don't know what it's doing there, it's an impostor. We should remove it and put it after your very first word which is crying out for one :wink:

Hopefully that would not be necessary, because you would instead replace "Hopefully" with the more correct "It is to be hoped that".

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Re: Language pedants

Postby NATURAL ANKLING » 25 Jun 2019, 10:16pm

Hi,
merseymouth wrote:Hi folk, I left school with swimming certificates and a 100% attendance record, "I Was There"! MM

Ha, 25 yards without touching the sides, I got one of them :)
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Re: Language pedants

Postby PDQ Mobile » 26 Jun 2019, 10:06am

I was reading an article about a Celtic Chariot find in S.Wales.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-48766001

The last sentence, a quote, struck me as a little ambiguous; as a written sentence.
I added commas in the second copy/paste.

The effect is quite subtle yet within that subtlety lies the fascination of conveyed meaning with all it's facets.
Miss it and you miss the point, so to speak!
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1
"By studying these artefacts we hope to learn more about a time when great change in the shape of the Roman Empire was sweeping across Wales."
2
"By studying these artefacts we hope to learn more about a time when great change, in the shape of the Roman Empire, was sweeping across Wales."

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Re: Language pedants

Postby merseymouth » 26 Jun 2019, 1:33pm

Hi Natural Ankling :x , I actually got 1/4 mile, 1/2 mile and mile certificates 8) .
I would swim 3 miles a day just for fun. Only perforated eardrums put an end to that, now my doctor says I must drown if I find myself out of my depth :roll: . IGICB MM

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Re: Language pedants

Postby NATURAL ANKLING » 27 Jun 2019, 10:33am

Hi,
I was never a very good swimmer, afraid of the water up to the age of nine.
So took up subAqua later in life.
Most I would swim would be 1 mile a week one visit, swam in the same lane as a ultraendurance Swimmer.
He swam crawl I never progressed beyond Sidestoke.
Got some very basic tuition and moved on to the crawl, Within a short while I could match pace of the ultraendurance Swimmer, but only for one Length, I had to copy his style exactly.
But I don't float very well, hence me never liking it that much.
Developed artery thrombosis whilst in hospital, Several years later and operation to correct a blockage, 30 years later it has returned.
On leaving hospital having a drink with my mate, I hold my breath for three minutes 20 seconds .
Elevated hempcrate level (Like Doping) no doubt, Direct result of splenectomy.
I should've been on blood thinner, although 35 years ago nearly 40 the problem was not well known.
even today you can be overlooked by the medical profession.

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Re: Language pedants

Postby Cugel » 27 Jun 2019, 1:56pm

Oldjohnw wrote:Phone-ins are dangerous, or at least they were when I used to listen about 15 years ago. I used to drive a lot and that meant JY and Any Answers. Listening and driving were a potentially lethal combination. I have never listened to JV and not AA for years.

Radio 3 or Classic FM now.


Radio 3 - an island of interesting or even inspiring musical culture in The Sea of Cacophony that is the modern mass musical media.

Classic FM - a home for cloying-voiced smarmers playing snippets and snappets of this and that, often the stuff that is musical jelly babies with the odd sherbet fizz.

I am a snob so prefer the former and cannot bear the latter. Radio 3 has the added ingredient of articulate presenters with an often wide erudition in the musical matters. Classic FM only has the descendants of Uriah Heep, oozing unctuously their cliched clots of creamy-voiced chrism.

Now and then there are Radio 3 interviews with performers, composers, conductors and many other of the musical world, who present great insights, sometimes in interesting accents sporting just as interesting grammaticals.

Only one aspect detracts from the pleasant experience of an afternoon of Radio 3 in the woodworking shed - the dreary and doleful groans and dirges from the High Church fellows. Gawd, they're depressing with their miserable hymns and admonitions concerning our human corruption along with the likely reward in the hot place!

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Re: Language pedants

Postby Cugel » 27 Jun 2019, 2:03pm

fausto copy wrote:It's amazing what one can do with the English language.
I passed an English Literature exam without reading one book.
I recounted some of the comments from discussions in the classroom and wrote a load of waffle.

Some may say nothing's changed. :mrgreen:


I have a degree in waffle and could easily get a Masters in Woffle. These are important subjects, as anyone who reads a newspap will know!

What I really wanted to do was to study Advanced Pugeling, which is a few grades above mere waffle and woffle, requiring the ability to write perfectly correct grammar with irrefutable and unambiguous semantics and syntax, whilst saying absolutely nothing, at great and convincing length, employing large numbers of very long sentences inclusive of a lot of punctuation. I am practicing the techniques here, just in case someone should offer me a bursary to attend a College of Pugeling.

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Re: Language pedants

Postby fausto copy » 27 Jun 2019, 5:24pm

Well, as Lampeter college seems to be in its death throes, perhaps you could suggest it as a new course and we could both enrol.
Though frankly (or should that be brianly) I haven't a clue wot I'd be studying. :)