pwa wrote:I have long held the view that if we in the developed nations don't cut our emissions to sustainable levels, levels that would be sustainable if everyone else on the planet were doing the same, how can we expect poorer folk in developing countries to do other than follow our example. If we do not cut down on flying, in a decade or two the populations of China, India and other developing nations will be doing as we do. Why would they not?
Yes but China!
Whataboutism must be the worst argument ever for doing nothing.
Doesn't matter that each of us make your average Chinese, Indian or pretty much any other non-western person look like a saint, or that we export a lot of our greenhouse gas emissions elsewhere.
What's really important is that those folk over there are collectively doing more damage than us. That they're doing our dirty work for us, or that their trying to emulate us or even that they're spending more per capita on "greening up" their country whilst we're starting to slide backwards is irrelevant.
However the upside is that why we start to do less and less and our ecology speak is all mouth and no trousers there are big moves afoot in those countries to produce environmentally friendly technologies and when they start to succeed they'll pull us up with them.
It's why we'll be driving Chinese EV's, fitting Chinese solar panels, using Chinese wind turbines etc etc
Meanwhile the U.S will be desperately paying people to dig up more coal and use the stuff they're currently stockpiling.
I guess we're in the middle somewhere...