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Re: hate-speech graffiti

Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 11:54am
by pete75
Hobbs1951 wrote:
al_yrpal wrote:
bovlomov wrote:Here's a thing. Al's '... remainers are all...' is a generalisation, of the type that I didn't make about Brexiters.


Sorry about that but I have just got into the mindset of all those Remainers who keep asserting we Leavers are all thick uninformed racists. I think I would rather be described as naive. :D

Al


Thick uninformed racists might be too close to the truth. For what I see/hear from Leavers, on this forum and elsewhere, promotes a perception that they are uninformed (thick too), as their opinions are never or at best rarely, supported by anything remotely resembling an informed opinion.

John.


You may well be right about some leave supporters but it's also true that some remainers have a very high opinion of themselves.

Re: hate-speech graffiti

Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 12:17pm
by Hobbs1951
pete75 wrote:
Hobbs1951 wrote:
al_yrpal wrote:
Sorry about that but I have just got into the mindset of all those Remainers who keep asserting we Leavers are all thick uninformed racists. I think I would rather be described as naive. :D

Al


Thick uninformed racists might be too close to the truth. For what I see/hear from Leavers, on this forum and elsewhere, promotes a perception that they are uninformed (thick too), as their opinions are never or at best rarely, supported by anything remotely resembling an informed opinion.

John.


You may well be right about some leave supporters but it's also true that some remainers have a very high opinion of themselves.


Better a little conceit(ed) than a racist: or indeed a thick uninformed racist.

John.

Re: hate-speech graffiti

Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 12:30pm
by pete75
Hobbs1951 wrote:
pete75 wrote:
Hobbs1951 wrote:
Thick uninformed racists might be too close to the truth. For what I see/hear from Leavers, on this forum and elsewhere, promotes a perception that they are uninformed (thick too), as their opinions are never or at best rarely, supported by anything remotely resembling an informed opinion.

John.


You may well be right about some leave supporters but it's also true that some remainers have a very high opinion of themselves.


Better a little conceit(ed) than a racist: or indeed a thick uninformed racist.

John.


Neither is a particularly desirable trait.

Re: hate-speech graffiti

Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 6:20pm
by 661-Pete
al_yrpal wrote:I think I would rather be described as naive. :D
Interesting remark: maybe a spark of honesty from A_Y? :wink:

Or maybe what you're trying to put across, is that you don't actually regard yourself as naïve, but you wouldn't get too upset if others described you as naïve.

Personally I'd prefer to interpret it as, you now concede that a large proportion of Leavers were indeed naïve - possibly including A_Y...

But I'm not holding my breath.

I still feel that the overt racists and fascists, whilst not actually part of the mainstream Leave movement, have indeed come out of the woodwork since the referendum. OK: I understand that the mainstream Leavers may not (and I hope not!) see them as kindred spirits; but on the other hand, the racists do see the Leavers as having empowered them.

Is that precise enough?

Re: unwelcome sight during walk on Downs

Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 7:23pm
by Vorpal
pwa wrote:
661-Pete wrote:
pwa wrote:I don't know what the solvent is in marker pens but the only time I tried removing it I found white spirit ineffective. It was on one of those white boards and someone had accidentally used permanent marker. What did work was using the same permanent marker over the offending lines, then wiping quickly before the solvent evaporated away. But if anyone caught you doing that it would look as though you had written it. :lol:
Meths, then?

A quick search suggests alcohol. Booze.

Yes. The alcohol based anti-bacterial hand gels work well, and comes in small bottles :)

Re: hate-speech graffiti

Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 7:27pm
by pwa
Hobbs1951 wrote:
al_yrpal wrote:
bovlomov wrote:Here's a thing. Al's '... remainers are all...' is a generalisation, of the type that I didn't make about Brexiters.


Sorry about that but I have just got into the mindset of all those Remainers who keep asserting we Leavers are all thick uninformed racists. I think I would rather be described as naive. :D

Al


Thick uninformed racists might be too close to the truth. For what I see/hear from Leavers, on this forum and elsewhere, promotes a perception that they are uninformed (thick too), as their opinions are never or at best rarely, supported by anything remotely resembling an informed opinion.

John.

Thanks for those kind words john :lol: Doing your bit to create an atmosphere of love and understanding? In your own way you demonstrate the lack of care for the "other" that this deplorable graffiti does. Be kind! That is what I've always told my kids. Be kind!

Re: hate-speech graffiti

Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 8:11pm
by Hobbs1951
pete75 wrote:
Neither is a particularly desirable trait.


Any that post here could be guilty of that trait (sic).

John.

Re: hate-speech graffiti

Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 8:15pm
by pete75
Hobbs1951 wrote:
pete75 wrote:
Neither is a particularly desirable trait.


Any that post here could be guilty of that trait (sic).

John.


Which one?

Re: unwelcome sight during walk on Downs

Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 8:19pm
by pete75
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Re: unwelcome sight during walk on Downs

Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 8:21pm
by reohn2
Vorpal wrote:
pwa wrote:
661-Pete wrote:Meths, then?

A quick search suggests alcohol. Booze.

Yes. The alcohol based anti-bacterial hand gels work well, and comes in small bottles :)

Nail polish remover?

Re: unwelcome sight during walk on Downs

Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 8:22pm
by pete75
Vorpal wrote:
pwa wrote:
661-Pete wrote:Meths, then?

A quick search suggests alcohol. Booze.

Yes. The alcohol based anti-bacterial hand gels work well, and comes in small bottles :)


Poteen does a damn good job of getting rid of it. When one of my boys was little he used a permanent marker to draw on a door. I'd just been given a 2 litre jug of ferociously strong Poteen, tried some on the marker and it worked very well.

Re: hate-speech graffiti

Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 9:04pm
by landsurfer
Cunobelin wrote:[


It also illustrates the biggest issue with Brexit, in that the noise from the extremists on both sides is drowning out the moderate voices that are the ones talking commonsense, informed answers and the contingencies that we need


++1

Re: unwelcome sight during walk on Downs

Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 9:08pm
by 661-Pete
pete75 wrote: Poteen does a damn good job of getting rid of it.
Excellent idea, but I fear Poteen (or more correctly, Poitín) may be hard to come by in leafy Sussex. Although our local Waitrose stocks a wide variety of booze, I don't think they have it.

I do have some long-neglected Slivović in our booze-cupboard (which we rarely open). Can't stand the stuff. So I suppose I could try that.

Or it'll have to be the meths. Just wondering, if I'm stopped by the Old Bill carrying a meths bottle and a rag (makings of a Molotov cocktail? I thought they used petrol) - would I end up banged up in the Nick? :shock:

Not on Wolstonbury Hill, surely! A disarmingly peaceful locality...

Re: unwelcome sight during walk on Downs

Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 9:17pm
by pete75
661-Pete wrote:
pete75 wrote: Poteen does a damn good job of getting rid of it.
Excellent idea, but I fear Poteen (or more correctly, Poitín) may be hard to come by in leafy Sussex. Although our local Waitrose stocks a wide variety of booze, I don't think they have it.


A friend's uncle used to make it in a shed on his allotment from tates he grew there. He was from Connaught and called it Poteen.

Re: unwelcome sight during walk on Downs

Posted: 12 Aug 2019, 5:29pm
by Cunobelin
pete75 wrote:
661-Pete wrote:
pete75 wrote: Poteen does a damn good job of getting rid of it.
Excellent idea, but I fear Poteen (or more correctly, Poitín) may be hard to come by in leafy Sussex. Although our local Waitrose stocks a wide variety of booze, I don't think they have it.


A friend's uncle used to make it in a shed on his allotment from tates he grew there. He was from Connaught and called it Poteen.



I made an error.....

I vaguely remember a couple of illegal stills being discovered in Sussex - so Googled "Sussex illegal stills"

I have 405,000 references to child pornography!