The Recycling Myth?

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The Recycling Myth?

Postby mercalia » 18 Aug 2019, 9:50am

An interesting but rather long article on the issue of recycling household waste

'Plastic recycling is a myth': what really happens to your rubbish?

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... GTUK_email

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Re: The Recycling Myth?

Postby Mick F » 18 Aug 2019, 10:09am

Scan read it.
All as I've always expected. Most of the stuff we and everyone else buys is wrapped in plastic.

Back when I woz a kid, we were a family of four, two coal fires and a coke fired stove. One dog and one cat.
We had one standard galvanised bin outside the back door that all the rubbish plus fire ash went into and it was collected and emptied once a week.

These days, people can't use their back yard for four or five wheelie bins blocking their way. Luckily, we only have three small bins in our kitchen and only one bin outside. The recycling goes with us to the supermarket skips and the non-recycle stuff gets collected in a black bin-bag at the gate once a week.

I have always believed that recycling was nothing other than a waste of time. If it wasn't produced in the first place, we'd all be better off.
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Re: The Recycling Myth?

Postby reohn2 » 18 Aug 2019, 10:38am

Yesterday's delivery of two cassettes:-
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Re: The Recycling Myth?

Postby geocycle » 18 Aug 2019, 10:52am

Reduce, reuse then if all else fails recycle. Unfortunately recycling is increasingly seen as a substitute for the first two. I think we could encourage cycle retailers to reduce packaging. SJS and Spa are creative with boxes but could reduce plastics.

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Re: The Recycling Myth?

Postby Mick F » 18 Aug 2019, 11:20am

Supermarkets are the biggest offenders.
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Re: The Recycling Myth?

Postby NATURAL ANKLING » 18 Aug 2019, 12:03pm

Hi,
reohn2 wrote:Yesterday's delivery of two cassettes:-
20190817_134636.jpg

So not a supporter of LBS then :mrgreen:

I never use them, actually I do, bought three chains clic & collect was less than half price of their shop price, Halfords :)
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Re: The Recycling Myth?

Postby NATURAL ANKLING » 18 Aug 2019, 12:05pm

Hi,
Lidl are serving up salad with no covering at the moment.
Edited- My local store that is.
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Re: The Recycling Myth?

Postby reohn2 » 18 Aug 2019, 12:21pm

NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,
reohn2 wrote:Yesterday's delivery of two cassettes:-
20190817_134636.jpg

So not a supporter of LBS then :mrgreen:

I never use them, actually I do, bought three chains clic & collect was less than half price of their shop price, Halfords :)


I saw Sram 8sp and 9sp 12-26 cassettes for £7.60 and 11-34 cassettes for £10.50 on Ebay with discounts for more than one purchase.
After checking the sequence found with a 14t (Shimano)top cog binning the 12 and 13t cogs I could make up a 14,15,17,19,21,23,26 and adding a 30 and 34t 9sp cassette,I have an in sequence slick changing cassette matched with a 24/39t Alpine double c/set gives me perfection on the Vagabond.
Going back to 8sp on the Vaya give's an in sequence 14,15,17,19,21,23,26,30t cassette with the chain set now back to a 22,32,42 MTB triple.
Same 20inch bottom gear on both bikes,slightly higher top on the Vaya @ 83in compared to the Vagabond's 78.5 in,all the gears I need :)
And I get some spare mid range in sequence sprockets from the 11-34 cassettes

The LBS can't offer those savings or cassettes,though the Ebay seller could use cardboard packaging,which would be much better.
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Re: The Recycling Myth?

Postby gbnz » 18 Aug 2019, 12:32pm

mercalia wrote:An interesting but rather long article on the issue of recycling household waste

'Plastic recycling is a myth': what really happens to your rubbish?


Read it over breakfast, it's interesting.

That said while I live an "environmentally friendly" lifestyle compared with many, it's reasonable to presume that humans will pollute until they die out.

Most people couldn't give a .....and many aren't bright enough to recognize how much pollution they cause I.e. The "green" warriers who attend the gym, driving there in their 4/4, throwing their trainers out every year for another pair, changing the phone very few months et al (Nb.Found myself criticised this morning for walking to the gym, wearing the same pair of trainers I've had since 2009 and not even having a smart phone - this all came from a "green" woman :shock:.

At least the staff at the recycling centre have ceased trying to prevent me walking or cycling into the centre (NB. As a local authority recycling centre, one is only allowed access in a car :roll: )

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Re: The Recycling Myth?

Postby Freddie » 18 Aug 2019, 1:48pm

gbnz wrote:...wearing the same pair of trainers I've had since 2009
How? I can't get more than 2 years at best before they are falling apart.

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Re: The Recycling Myth?

Postby gbnz » 18 Aug 2019, 4:36pm

Freddie wrote:
gbnz wrote:...wearing the same pair of trainers I've had since 2009
How? I can't get more than 2 years at best before they are falling apart.


I'm referring to trainers used at the gym; 6-10 Hr's a week doing weights, ab's and cardio on rowing machines et al, results in minimal wear compared with those worn whilst running. And obviously being a tight sod (AKA cyclist?) superglue is great for extending the lifespan

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Re: The Recycling Myth?

Postby philvantwo » 18 Aug 2019, 5:56pm

I wonder how much of Mick F's recycling is his empty beer bottles?
Maybe he should be buying cans instead?
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Re: The Recycling Myth?

Postby reohn2 » 18 Aug 2019, 6:00pm

philvantwo wrote:I wonder how much of Mick F's recycling is his empty beer bottles?
Maybe he should be buying cans instead?

Is not glass easier to recycle?
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Re: The Recycling Myth?

Postby gbnz » 18 Aug 2019, 6:21pm

reohn2 wrote:
philvantwo wrote:I wonder how much of Mick F's recycling is his empty beer bottles?
Maybe he should be buying cans instead?

Is not glass easier to recycle?


Yep, that's why I bought two bottles of beer, rather than cans a couple of hours ago :wink: (Nb. Perhaps I should say that I'm giving, beer, junk food and an idle life a miss for the next six weeks - a belated new years resolution :?:)

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Re: The Recycling Myth?

Postby brynpoeth » 18 Aug 2019, 6:44pm

An early resolution indeed, we are in the second half of the year, commendable :wink:

Apparently a lot of plastic waste is burned for energy, it is made of oil, maybe that is not so bad
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