Tangled Metal wrote:As to extra bank Holidays I have said this before and no doubt will say it again on another thread. No new bank Holidays please. Not unless it increases the statutory holidays from 28 to account for the extra date (s).
The simple reason is that a lot of people only get the statutory minimum number of paid holidays. That can include bank Holidays. You give us an extra day off on a certain date each year that comes straight out of the number of holidays that I get to choose the date of. So 20 electable days (4 weeks) becomes 19, 18 or less for each extra BH given to us. That drops electable days to less than 4 weeks. Suddenly its 3 weeks and a day or two here and there.
Then if your company operates a shutdown over day Xmas. Well suddenly you're down to less than 3 weeks with the extra BH they've decided to give us.
If any politician wants to give us something then increase the number of statutory holidays or ban companies counting bank holidays. That I think would really benefit the workers. Because bluntly put the workers, as opposed to the management, are the ones most likely on minimum holidays with Bank Holidays included in those. Management probably on more holidays.
You raise a good point. It makes "minimum statutory" a joke where mandatory days are deduced. Gov. should legislate that minimum statutory cannot include Bank Holidays.
And, after that I would agree that reducing the number of Bank Holidays and adding those days to minimum statutory would be a good idea.
The minimum statutory under EU legislation is 20 days - 4 weeks. It was increased to 28 in the UK to take account of the 8 bank holidays. Presumably if an extra bank holiday was created it would increase to 29. It's up to the employer whether or not they give bank holidays on top of the 28 days.
I only know one person who works where bank holidays are taken out of leave allowance but the company gives them 36 days annual leave to make up for it. It's because bank holidays are part of the normal working week. They don't pay double time for BH working though which is a bit mean.
When I was an engineer in a food freezing factory we often worked bank holidays and had the choice of double time and a day off in lieu or treble time. Most took the latter because it tended to be a 12 hour shift so 36 hours pay. In the main processing season often worked 12 hour Saturday , 12 hour Sunday and 12 hour BH Monday. 78 hours pay for 36 hours work. Did 4 12 hour shifts on the other days so that was another 56 hours pay. 250 quid a week was good money in 1978 though in the winter when just a 40 hour week it dropped to about 75 quid.
I've stopped working now but personally I would never have gone to work for a company that insisted bank holidays be taken out of the annual leave allowance. My last employer gave 33 days leave plus bank holidays.