Harmful 'phone calls

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Re: Harmful 'phone calls

Postby simonhill » 13 Sep 2019, 1:04pm

Carlton green wrote:
My Mother-in-Law had a habit of talking to callers and despite thinking herself streetwise she still got tricked out of some money and ended up buying things that she didn’t need.

Beyond swiftly getting rid of them never engage with unexpected callers. Even if you know that they’re a con’ artist you gain nothing substantial from engaging with them, you waste your own time, you risk still being sucked in by them and you give them the opportunity to sharpen their skills.


I agree. The best thing is to hang up asap. Some of these guys like smart asses stringing them along because thy can glean tiny bits of information. Lots of tiny bits can add up to enough to make a plausible sting. They also get to know that you are a talker and that information is sometimes passed on or re-used. Why risk it.

I've learnt from travelling that most con men are better at whatever it is than I am. Its often the ones who think they are streetwise that get ripped off - because it couldn't happen to them! My advice is say no, hang up, walk away, etc.

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Re: Harmful 'phone calls

Postby Pastychomper » 13 Sep 2019, 1:05pm

I had the "disconnection from BT" call recently. I remembered the advice about not saying 'yes' in case it's being recorded, so I just responded to each explanation and warning with "You don't say." After saying it three or four times I hung up, then when somebody asked who it was, I replied they didn't say.

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Re: Harmful 'phone calls

Postby Psamathe » 13 Sep 2019, 1:10pm

simonhill wrote:.....
I agree. The best thing is to hang up asap. Some of these guys like smart asses stringing them along because thy can glean tiny bits of information. Lots of tiny bits can add up to enough to make a plausible sting. They also get to know that you are a talker and that information is sometimes passed on or re-used. Why risk it......

I used to say "interesting ... hang on whilst I get the dog back indoors" then just leave the phone on the table, maybe every few minutes pick it up and say "wont be a moment". Give out no info (if they want to assume I've got a dog then fine but I don't have one).

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Re: Harmful 'phone calls

Postby Carlton green » 13 Sep 2019, 2:07pm

Pastychomper wrote:
I had the "disconnection from BT" call recently. I remembered the advice about not saying 'yes' in case it's being recorded, so I just responded to each explanation and warning with "You don't say." After saying it three or four times I hung up, then when somebody asked who it was, I replied they didn't say.



They In-laws often get the (false) calls about being cut off from BT and other services. My Mother-in-law used to chat to these people and, I believe, that resulted in their number being placed on a ‘suckers list’. I’ve not heard the comment (useful IMHO) about not saying yes to anything in case it’s being recorded, I suppose that such people have all types of tricks up their sleeve ... best to disengage with then. Maybe disengage with: “I think you must have the wrong number ‘cause we don’t use BT (or whatever other service is supposed to be calling), goodbye”; ‘obviously’ you don’t give them any other details.
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Re: Harmful 'phone calls

Postby 100%JR » 13 Sep 2019, 2:42pm

Haven't had a landline plugged in for years :mrgreen:
On my Mobile I have an App called Truecaller.It basically displays the companies business under the number.You can also report numbers for future reference/other users.
Had to laugh when it rang the other day and it said PPI W@****s under the number.It appears that if you report a number you are free to put what you like in the comments box :lol:

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Re: Harmful 'phone calls

Postby John1054 » 13 Sep 2019, 4:12pm

We invested in a BT Call Guardian 'phone - no more nuisance calls! The best bit for me is that we also have a basic 'phone in case of power cuts. It always gives one ring whilst the Call Guardian deals with the nuisance calls, then nothing! We win again :D

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Re: Harmful 'phone calls

Postby Debs » 13 Sep 2019, 4:15pm

NUKe wrote:“Hello this is Microsoft, we have detected a leak in your internet, we are going to turn it off.”
“Hello this BT, “
These two lines always tell me we are going to have fun.
Always play the doddering idiot with the really slow computer.
Conversation starts
“We have seen a problem with your internet. “
“Oh that’s terrible what do you need to do “
make a cup of tea pretending to switch on my imaginary computer it’s windows 97 if they ask . Can you start your Browser?
What is that ?
You can usually get them to list of internet browsers. Then tell them yours is Netscape. By this point they are hooked and you can real them in. They’re exited , another 5 minutes can be wasted pretending to type in there website. Or they might ask for details such as IP address can usually make something up.

Keep meaning to build a virtual machine on Linux then I can keep them going even longer.


That's a good plan, well done for staying cool. [ i just want to throttle the scamming git ]

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A couple of weeks ago i had one.

"Ring! Ring" ... "Ring Ring" ...
[ a young man speaks to me in poor English in maybe a Chinese accent]

Hello this BT, we have found a problem with your internet, Have you problem with slow internet?

Hi there, yes it has been so slow, thanks for pointing it out to me

Are you on your computer now?

No i'm on the telephone with a scammer.

Are you with computer, it turned on now?

Yes, it's here with me all ready to go!

Can you go to this website...?

It's okay, thanks for pointing out my slow internet, i'll get on the phone to BT about it.

No we BT, you talk to me about slow internet, or you cut off later today.

I don't want to talk to you about it because you're obviously a nasty scammer

No we BT, you may lose internet get cut off, i here to help you

Have you ever thought of getting an honest job?
You obviously aren't any good at doing telephone scam robbery.

No you listen, we BT, i help you with keep internet, you have problem.

No you listen to me you nasty f---wit scammer, me no talk to you bad boy

You no insult me, you in trouble could lose your internet connection.

Do you want my internet banking details, steal my money like the nasty scamming bar steward you are?

No! You no allow to insult me, you wrong, you not do that

Okay, you can F--- Off now... [ i put the phone down ]

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Re: Harmful 'phone calls

Postby al_yrpal » 13 Sep 2019, 5:56pm

My approach has always to put on a false Indian accent and ask them for their order. This usually makes them put the phone down pronto.

It was the same when I was working, when they rang asking to speak to the the Managing Director. We always said thats Mr Singh and he is in the kitchen because we have too many takeaway orders, I'll just go and get him.. then put them on hold. They all ring off almost immediately.

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Re: Harmful 'phone calls

Postby pete75 » 13 Sep 2019, 6:30pm

My approach has always been to immediately end the call. Why bother to do anything else?

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Re: Harmful 'phone calls

Postby Psamathe » 13 Sep 2019, 6:57pm

pete75 wrote:My approach has always been to immediately end the call. Why bother to do anything else?

I used to find just hanging-up and you get another call a few days later and again a few days later. Ideally I think to try and do something to stop them calling again. My best solution so far has been to leave the landline unplugged. But some do call mobiles though I've not suffered badly from that (yet). Maybe it gets more expensive as I think a proportion of these calls come from overseas and hence they can't be bothered about TPS (and they spoof UK numbers).

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Re: Harmful 'phone calls

Postby DaveReading » 13 Sep 2019, 7:14pm

pete75 wrote:My approach has always been to immediately end the call. Why bother to do anything else?

The longer you can string them along, the less time they have available to try on the scam with victims who are more vulnerable than you.

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Re: Harmful 'phone calls

Postby djnotts » 13 Sep 2019, 8:14pm

Serves no purpose but amuses me..."press 1 to talk to..."...."press 2 to *^*" off you robbing m*$&^%*^*"*"!" Or if "live" and sound UK "I will find you and break your ...."

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Re: Harmful 'phone calls

Postby brynpoeth » 13 Sep 2019, 8:17pm

Whatabout chuggers, how should one deal with them?
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Re: Harmful 'phone calls

Postby Psamathe » 13 Sep 2019, 8:26pm

brynpoeth wrote:Whatabout chuggers, how should one deal with them?

I don't get approached by them but aren't there specific laws or regulations covering them now (wasn't there some sort of scandal or outcry a few years ago?) Or am I having a "senior moment" ...

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Re: Harmful 'phone calls

Postby brynpoeth » 13 Sep 2019, 8:35pm

Psamathe wrote:
brynpoeth wrote:Whatabout chuggers, how should one deal with them?

I don't get approached by them but aren't there specific laws or regulations covering them now (wasn't there some sort of scandal or outcry a few years ago?) Or am I having a "senior moment" ...

Ian

I worked as a chugger, would have approached anyone, talked to a few thousand people, signed up about a thousand
Why do they not approach you?
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