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All You Wanted to Know About Chlorinated Chicken

Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 10:03am
by mercalia

Re: All You Wanted to Know About Chlorinated Chicken

Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 11:15am
by al_yrpal
Its not chlorinated its simply washed in chlorinated water just like many of the fruits, salads and vegetables you are eating.

Al

Re: All You Wanted to Know About Chlorinated Chicken

Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 12:18pm
by Psamathe
al_yrpal wrote:Its not chlorinated its simply washed in chlorinated water just like many of the fruits, salads and vegetables you are eating.

Al

Not quite. An recent/current article worth reading that explains why it's not like many fruits, salads and vegitables
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/13/science-on-safety-of-chlorinated-chicken-misunderstood wrote:Science on safety of chlorinated chicken 'misunderstood'
Government’s assurances that there are no health problems are misleading, say food policy experts

...
But the academics point to research published last year which found washing food in bleach does not kill many of the pathogens that cause food poisoning. Instead, it sends them into a “viable but non-culturable state”, which means they are not picked up in standard tests, which take a sample of the food and try to culture any germs on it.

The presence of the pathogens is thus masked by the bleach, but they are still dangerous to human health.


Ian

Re: All You Wanted to Know About Chlorinated Chicken

Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 12:22pm
by Psamathe
al_yrpal wrote:Its not chlorinated its simply washed in chlorinated water just like many of the fruits, salads and vegetables you are eating.

Al

The other aspect to remember is that the term "chlorine washed chicken" has in non-technical reports been generalised to refer to all many of the US animal food products raised under poor animal welfare standards e.g. it might also include hormone fed beef. The "chlorine washed chicken" is the poster-boy for the animal food products we don't want from the US.

Ian

Re: All You Wanted to Know About Chlorinated Chicken

Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 12:26pm
by kwackers
Psamathe wrote:
al_yrpal wrote:Its not chlorinated its simply washed in chlorinated water just like many of the fruits, salads and vegetables you are eating.

Al

The other aspect to remember is that the term "chlorine washed chicken" has in non-technical reports been generalised to refer to all many of the US animal food products raised under poor animal welfare standards e.g. it might also include hormone fed beef. The "chlorine washed chicken" is the poster-boy for the animal food products we don't want from the US.

Ian

If Al's happy to eat them why not you?

Oh wait - Al's bessie mates with his local butcher so it's another case of "do as I say, not as I do".

Re: All You Wanted to Know About Chlorinated Chicken

Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 1:01pm
by francovendee
I wouldn't eat it. Food hygiene standards are not as high in the USA as the within the EU. The purpose of the chlorination is to try and clean the chicken up.
I sincerely hope that the UK compels all Supermarkets, Food Processors and restaurants to clearly mark the products that contain Chlorinated Chicken.
You can then avoid it.
Regarding salad stuffs, I don't buy anything in a bag, partly on environmental grounds but also because it's less likely to be mucked around with.

Re: All You Wanted to Know About Chlorinated Chicken

Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 1:09pm
by Psamathe
francovendee wrote:I wouldn't eat it. Food hygiene standards are not as high in the USA as the within the EU. The purpose of the chlorination is to try and clean the chicken up.
I sincerely hope that the UK compels all Supermarkets, Food Processors and restaurants to clearly mark the products that contain Chlorinated Chicken.
You can then avoid it.
Regarding salad stuffs, I don't buy anything in a bag, partly on environmental grounds but also because it's less likely to be mucked around with.

For me same also applies to GM foods (as well as the poor US livestock).

If the Government does not require specific labelling I'd hope that origin labelling would apply which might result in a lot of people avoiding anything from the US. Though that would only be a partial solution in the case of prepared foods (e.g. Cottage Pie) which would probably end up with "Produce of many countries" as cheap hormone fed meats from US, potatoes from insecticide obsessed US (2nd largest user of insecticide in the world), GM carrots from US, etc. (there seems to be a pattern emerging)

Ian

Re: All You Wanted to Know About Chlorinated Chicken

Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 1:43pm
by mattheus
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Re: All You Wanted to Know About Chlorinated Chicken

Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 3:50pm
by 100%JR
al_yrpal wrote:Its not chlorinated its simply washed in chlorinated water just like many of the fruits, salads and vegetables you are eating.
Al

Is that also you "gut" feeling :lol:

Re: All You Wanted to Know About Chlorinated Chicken

Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 5:38pm
by mercalia
what would worry me about chlorinated chicken is the bugs in the meat that are not washed away. We hear about enough food poisoning stories with the higher standards of chicken care as it is, in the UK? I wonder if there are any comparative data on food poisoning between the UK/EU and the USA?

Re: All You Wanted to Know About Chlorinated Chicken

Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 6:02pm
by landsurfer
I've eaten chicken in the USA ... lots of it ... it was very nice ..... :D

Re: All You Wanted to Know About Chlorinated Chicken

Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 6:06pm
by Psamathe
mercalia wrote:what would worry me about chlorinated chicken is the bugs in the meat that are not washed away. We hear about enough food poisoning stories with the higher standards of chicken care as it is, in the UK? I wonder if there are any comparative data on food poisoning between the UK/EU and the USA?

You need o look at the article I quoted above
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/13/science-on-safety-of-chlorinated-chicken-misunderstood wrote:Science on safety of chlorinated chicken 'misunderstood'
Government’s assurances that there are no health problems are misleading, say food policy experts

...
But the academics point to research published last year which found washing food in bleach does not kill many of the pathogens that cause food poisoning. Instead, it sends them into a “viable but non-culturable state”, which means they are not picked up in standard tests, which take a sample of the food and try to culture any germs on it.

The presence of the pathogens is thus masked by the bleach, but they are still dangerous to human health.

It's not washed away, not even killed. Just "it sends them into a “viable but non-culturable state”, which means they are not picked up in standard tests".

Ian

Re: All You Wanted to Know About Chlorinated Chicken

Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 6:46pm
by landsurfer
Psamathe wrote:[
It's not washed away, not even killed. Just "it sends them into a “viable but non-culturable state”, which means they are not picked up in standard tests".

Ian


So ours is better because we don't even try to kill the bugs ... we just eat them and get ill ... thats better ?

Re: All You Wanted to Know About Chlorinated Chicken

Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 7:16pm
by francovendee
It's far better to avoid the 'bugs' getting into the chicken in the first place!
Horse, stable and bolted springs to mind.

Re: All You Wanted to Know About Chlorinated Chicken

Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 7:17pm
by bogmyrtle
landsurfer wrote:
Psamathe wrote:[
It's not washed away, not even killed. Just "it sends them into a “viable but non-culturable state”, which means they are not picked up in standard tests".

Ian


So ours is better because we don't even try to kill the bugs ... we just eat them and get ill ... thats better ?

Thorough cooking kills pathogens. No need for chlorine.