The tories priorities?

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Ben@Forest
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slowster wrote:
Tangled Metal wrote:It is interesting that some of the legislation to deal with the union problems and modernisation of three working environment has been copied around Europe. Some like France are generally considered to still need to gi along that way.

And yet the UK's productivity is significantly worse than France, e.g. ONS figures from 2016.

The argument that France needs to relax its labour laws more may indeed have some merit, but the fact that the UK's productivity is worse is a far more important issue. Despite this commentators frequently talk about how the UK is more friendly to businesses because of its labour laws compared with countries like France, when they should talking much much more about how our productivity is not good enough.


As far as l understand it productivity is not only about labour. Listening to an economist on the radio about this, factors such as transport are also in the mix, so in the UK traffic jams, poor east-west connectivity and not yet building more airport capacity all affect productivity.

And building more infrastructure is of course universally good, ..... errrr......
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Tangled Metal wrote:You're using a narrow definition of Tories I think. The Tories who voted for boris were the members. A vast majority of Tories aren't paid up members but they're still lifelong Tories. Only paid up members got to vote on the last two candidates. Don't tar us all with that brush there still the minority of Tory voters. I wonder if conservative party offered a £3 stake to vote for their leader instead of a looney leader would they have got a better leader?

Some of those Tory party members aren't even allow a vote in a GE,yet they put the present cuckoo in the nest.
How do you know anyone is a Tory unless they are a party memver or profess to be an unflinching supporter as you claim to be?
When you talk of 'looney' leaders perhaps you need look at your own party.The £3 stake I agree isn't good.
Oh! And BTW I'm not a Labour party member,just a supporter of many of it's ideals.

As to the right to withhold work, all well and good but we all know how unfettered union actions brought our country to it's knees

I make no excuses for the actions of the unions when they held too much power,I stated that clearly in my previous post.But look who's brought this countrycto it's knees presently and if the present cuckoo gets his own way it'll be a lot worse for the common working wo/man!

Various actions of the unions got curtailed through legislation. Now fair ballots have to be taken, flying pickets are banned and many of the secondary picketing too

A lot of which I agree with.

. I think you had the once great NUM and Arthur Scargill for a lot of that

I have no truck with that idealist trouble maker,as I had no truck with the equal and opposite idealist Maggie Thatcher.The pair ought to rot in hell if there is one,for the damage they both did to this country.
It is interesting that some of the legislation to deal with the union problems and modernisation of three working environment has been copied around Europe. Some like France are generally considered to still need to gi along that way

France is a far more socialist country than the UK,so good luck with that Mr Macron,me thinks it'll cost him his job.

I guess I will always differ with r2 over the value of unions and who benefits most with legislation to control unions (everyone does). We will always look at these matters and see things differently.

Unions were established for the good and protection of the ordinary people who were crushed by the Establishment due to a despicable class system still in operation today and which seeks to re-establish itself.
Under the Tories over the past 10 year the working wo/man's rights wages and conditions have been eroded by that Establishment of which the Tory party if the main instrument along with the rightwing all owned and run by millionaire and billionaires seek to make even more monapey as if they didn't have enough already.And all at the cost of the country and he ordinary wo/man on the street.
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I see Rory Stewart(a one nation Tory if ever there was one) has resigned from the Tory party,who can blame him?
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Defection is the Name of the Game now, isn't it!

We know someone locally who's been in the past, at various times, a Town Councillor, a District Councillor, and a County Councillor, for the LibDems. Some years ago he defected to Labour - he's never given us reasons but I expect the antics of one Mr Clegg have something to do with it. He's pretty Green-minded - he even turned up for the recent XR presentation that we went to! And he stood - as a Labour candidate - in our recent local elections, but didn't get anywhere: Labour were practically wiped out. Each time I meet him I keep trying to persuade him to throw in his lot with us Greens - he'd be a valuable asset - or failing that, re-defect to the LibDems - but he hasn't budged yet.

Maybe......
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