mercalia wrote: this is getting way off topic.
Don't know about topics, but I ate a marathon the other day.
Hazelnuts or peanuts - that's the question.
mercalia wrote: this is getting way off topic.
Quite. Maybe all the posts have the same message though: the creeping subservience of this country towards American standards and practices....?mercalia wrote:Vorpal wrote:kwackers wrote:Can you slaughter a dead animal?
no, probably not. But sometimes stunning actually kills the animal, which is not permitted according to Islamic law.
this is getting way off topic.
Sorry, but that's nonsense (how would you define Halal pork? ). Where did you pick up this canard from, could it have been an Islamophobic website?Tangled Metal wrote:Bear in mind all the big supermarket chains actually only supply Halal.
661-Pete wrote:Sorry, but that's nonsense (how would you define Halal pork? ). Where did you pick up this canard from, could it have been an Islamophobic website?Tangled Metal wrote:Bear in mind all the big supermarket chains actually only supply Halal.
It is true that all New Zealand lamb supplied to the UK is Halal, because NZ abattoirs are all geared up to supply both the Halal and non-Halal market, and they found it simpler to make all their output Halal. Bear in mind that this meat is still pre-stunned. The only difference, as far as I know, is that Halal meat is blessed by an Imam before slaughter.
But other meats are mostly non-Halal. Unless specifically labelled as such.
661-Pete wrote:Sorry, but that's nonsense (how would you define Halal pork? ). Where did you pick up this canard from, could it have been an Islamophobic website?Tangled Metal wrote:Bear in mind all the big supermarket chains actually only supply Halal.
It is true that all New Zealand lamb supplied to the UK is Halal, because NZ abattoirs are all geared up to supply both the Halal and non-Halal market, and they found it simpler to make all their output Halal. Bear in mind that this meat is still pre-stunned. The only difference, as far as I know, is that Halal meat is blessed by an Imam before slaughter.
But other meats are mostly non-Halal. Unless specifically labelled as such.
Vorpal wrote:landsurfer wrote:OK so we're all ok with Halal butchery ?????
As long as the animals don't smell of chlorine ???
I don't eat meat. I'd rather that no, or at least many fewer animals died to feed humans, but most Halal slaughter includes stunning the animals prior to slaughter. To be Halal, means the animal must be alive and healthy when slaughtered.
Oldjohnw wrote:Killing of animals without first stunning was banned throughout the EU in 1979......
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/halal-and-kosher-slaughter wrote:You must stun all animals before you slaughter them unless an animal is being religiously slaughtered for halal or kosher meat.
this is subject to debate amongst Muslims, so I don't think i can reasonably provide an answer.Psamathe wrote:
Can being stunned prior to having its throat cut really considered "healthy". I would say as soon as significant numbers of electrons start pouring into its nervous system it has moved into a decidedly "unhealthy" state. But to a degree I am quibbling over works.
Psamathe wrote:But then what is the difference between Halal and routine slaughter. Is non-halal livestock diseased? I'd have hoped that all animals slaughtered for human consumption would be healthy and as others have said, can you slaughter an animal that is not alive.
Ian
Psamathe wrote:Oldjohnw wrote:Killing of animals without first stunning was banned throughout the EU in 1979......
Maybe the UK is an exception then as UK Gov's own regulationshttps://www.gov.uk/guidance/halal-and-kosher-slaughter wrote:You must stun all animals before you slaughter them unless an animal is being religiously slaughtered for halal or kosher meat.
Ian