Booze - minimum price?

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Booze - minimum price?

Postby Mick F » 17 Oct 2019, 3:03pm

In Scotland, there is a 50p per unit minimum price for alcoholic drinks.
Here in Bonny England, we have no such law.

Been buying Old Speckled Hen in cans from Tesco at £20 for two boxes of ten ie one 500ml can for a quid.
2.5UK units per can at 5% abv ......... it says on the cans ........ just looked.
Over the border, the minimum price would be £1.25 a can ie 25% higher than here.

If you lived in southern Scotland, would it would be worth popping south to a Tesco and filling the car boot up?

Do people do this?
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Re: Booze - minimum price?

Postby 100%JR » 17 Oct 2019, 5:09pm

Mick F wrote:In Scotland, there is a 50p per unit minimum price for alcoholic drinks.
Here in Bonny England, we have no such law.

Been buying Old Speckled Hen in cans from Tesco at £20 for two boxes of ten ie one 500ml can for a quid.
2.5UK units per can at 5% abv ......... it says on the cans ........ just looked.
Over the border, the minimum price would be £1.25 a can ie 25% higher than here.

If you lived in southern Scotland, would it would be worth popping south to a Tesco and filling the car boot up?

Do people do this?

I would think it depends on how far over the border the nearest Supermarket is?
We were in Scotland in August and the Wine in the Co-op was the same price as back home.Wine in the Co-op in Keswick,Cumbria is around £1 a bottle dearer though :|
I thought the "minimum" price per unit was only on high abv beers/ciders....ie Tramp-juice?
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Re: Booze - minimum price?

Postby NUKe » 17 Oct 2019, 5:17pm

Not sure if people do as Mick Suggests, but it has caused a drop in the sale of strong beers such as Special brew and white lightening , and the Scottish health Authority seem to be pleased with the results. This is about trying to protect the vulnerable and to reduce the number of alcohol units being consumed
https://www.bmj.com/content/366/bmj.l5274
results are toward the bottom if you don't want to read it all .
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Re: Booze - minimum price?

Postby Paulatic » 17 Oct 2019, 5:21pm

Here’s a story for you https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/1794 ... m-pricing/

So it might be that once again Scotland leads the way and it’ll be coming to you one day. There are benefits https://www.bmj.com/content/366/bmj.l5274

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Re: Booze - minimum price?

Postby rjb » 17 Oct 2019, 5:24pm

We were visiting some friends in Elgin during the summer. We were very surprised at how cheap beer was in Weatherspoons compared to down south.!
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Re: Booze - minimum price?

Postby Oldjohnw » 17 Oct 2019, 5:34pm

Large numbers come to both Berwick and Carlisle. I've seen them.
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Re: Booze - minimum price?

Postby Mick F » 17 Oct 2019, 6:49pm

Oldjohnw wrote:Large numbers come to both Berwick and Carlisle. I've seen them.
This is what I thought may be happening.

Even just the Old Speckled Hen I mentioned would be worth the trip. Only 5% abv but 25p per can saving ......... that is 25% on a quid a can in England.
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Re: Booze - minimum price?

Postby rjb » 17 Oct 2019, 7:03pm

Is this in the right thread?
or should it go in the brexit one.
You can all afford to drown your sorrows. :lol:

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Re: Booze - minimum price?

Postby Sweep » 17 Oct 2019, 7:11pm

rjb wrote:We were visiting some friends in Elgin during the summer. We were very surprised at how cheap beer was in Weatherspoons compared to down south.!
And no I haven't lost my marbles. :lol:


??

cheaper than the spoons you frequent down south?

On the main topic, serious as alcohol abuse is I don't support minimum pricing at all.

Clearly it discriminates against those with less money - those more flush will just carry on knocking back as much as strong as they want.
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Re: Booze - minimum price?

Postby fausto copy » 17 Oct 2019, 7:32pm

Minimum pricing is coming to Wales in March 2020 too.
Won't bother me, with my average beer intake of 1 pint per month. :wink:

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Re: Booze - minimum price?

Postby Mick F » 17 Oct 2019, 7:48pm

Sweep wrote:On the main topic, serious as alcohol abuse is I don't support minimum pricing at all.
Clearly it discriminates against those with less money - those more flush will just carry on knocking back as much as strong as they want.
I utterly agree.
I can afford to knock back a few beers a night. If I can get it cheap, all well and good, but if I have to pay 25% more, so what?

It's a seriously regressive tax.
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Re: Booze - minimum price?

Postby PH » 17 Oct 2019, 10:09pm

Mick F wrote:It's a seriously regressive tax.

It isn't a tax at all :roll:

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Re: Booze - minimum price?

Postby Sweep » 17 Oct 2019, 10:21pm

PH wrote:
Mick F wrote:It's a seriously regressive tax.

It isn't a tax at all :roll:


splitting hairs.

You know what mick meant and I agree with him.

It may as well be a conventional tax as far as purchasers are concerned.

For of course a government has artificially raised the price of a product.

And in any case, if the price of a sold product goes up, presumably that increases the tax take.

Or is booze zero rated?

Along with cocaine snorted by metropolitan types?
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Re: Booze - minimum price?

Postby PH » 18 Oct 2019, 12:12am

Sweep wrote:
PH wrote:
Mick F wrote:It's a seriously regressive tax.

It isn't a tax at all :roll:


splitting hairs.

That's an opinion, though I don't find calling things something which they obviously are not so easy to dismiss.

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Re: Booze - minimum price?

Postby Oldjohnw » 18 Oct 2019, 8:20am

I am not in the least pedantic, but...

A tax collects money for the exchequer. This doesn't, at least not directly. Obviously higher prices mean higher tax as it is a percentage. On the other hand it is likely that within Scotland sales - and therefore tax take - will fall
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