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Postby mercalia » 25 Oct 2019, 11:11pm

Seems like France is going to regulate their use after numerous deaths and accidents


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50189279
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Re: escooters get contolled in France

Postby mjr » 25 Oct 2019, 11:44pm

Where "numerous deaths" seems to be just six and one of those "was struck by a car in the south-western city of Bordeaux" which hardly seems like the scooter's fault!

More worryingly, they're being forced into helmets and hi vis and banned from country roads. First they came for the escooters...?
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Re: escooters get contolled in France

Postby brynpoeth » 26 Oct 2019, 7:51am

I think six is a lot
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Re: escooters get contolled in France

Postby merseymouth » 26 Oct 2019, 8:07am

Hi, A pointless, faddy, childish toy! Safety is obviously not a concern for the numpties that use then, nor does the safety of other appear on their radar.
As with the variants of the Segway & powered Roller boards, they have no place in public use!
The pedal cycle evolved with safety at the core, even that of others, the Kirkpatrick McMillan fine shows the need.
As we cycle on all types of machines we have the brakes directly available for use, that is except the obsessional "Fixie Folk", so we can control our rate of progress with the safety element in place. (Oh, nearly forgot he clowns who insist on using Unicycles the road and/or pavement)
So why not a blanket ban on all machines that don't have a proper braking system in place? MM

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Re: escooters get contolled in France

Postby reohn2 » 26 Oct 2019, 8:09am

brynpoeth wrote:I think six is a lot

In a population of 66+ million statistically speaking it's not a lot.
How many people were killed by cars in the same period?
How many drivers and passengers were killed in cars in the same period?
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Re: escooters get contolled in France

Postby brynpoeth » 26 Oct 2019, 8:11am

One is too many

In Germany the stupid things are abandoned all over, I have them aside into the ditch
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Re: escooters get contolled in France

Postby reohn2 » 26 Oct 2019, 8:13am

merseymouth wrote:Hi, A pointless, faddy, childish toy!

That's just not true,they can be a very efficient means of short hop tramsport


Safety is obviously not a concern for the numpties that use then, nor does the safety of other appear on their radar

How do you come to that conclusion?

So why not a blanket ban on all machines that don't have a proper braking system in place? MM

Do they not have a brake?
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Re: escooters get contolled in France

Postby mjr » 26 Oct 2019, 8:14am

brynpoeth wrote:I think six is a lot

Really? Over what time? And there are over 120 cyclist deaths a year, so does that mean you think we should also be banned from country roads and forced into ineffective uglywear on others?
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Re: escooters get contolled in France

Postby reohn2 » 26 Oct 2019, 8:17am

brynpoeth wrote:One is too many

Whilst I agree,but in the overall scheme of things and compared with other dangers on the road it seems they're pretty benign.
How many people are killed on bikes?
In Germany the stupid things are abandoned all over, I have them aside into the ditch

Along with,bikes supermarket trolleys,umbrellas,litter,etc,etc.
Or are you implying that when the battery is flat the owners just throw them away?
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Re: escooters get contolled in France

Postby brynpoeth » 26 Oct 2019, 8:22am

I think they are not bought but apped, one pays maybe 20 € plus so much a km
I assumed they are discarded (often near a bus stop) when the battery is exhausted but the bus firm might collect them, probably does eventually, doubtless the interweb knows where they are

They are very heavy and useless/dangerous, the only thing one could do is scoot downhill without a brake :?
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Re: escooters get contolled in France

Postby brynpoeth » 26 Oct 2019, 8:23am

mjr wrote:
brynpoeth wrote:I think six is a lot

Really? Over what time? And there are over 120 cyclist deaths a year, so does that mean you think we should also be banned from country roads and forced into ineffective uglywear on others?

One is too many
I favour traffic law enforcement that would halve motor traffic in a few weeks
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Re: escooters get contolled in France

Postby reohn2 » 26 Oct 2019, 8:31am

brynpoeth wrote:I think they are not bought but apped, one pays maybe 20 € plus so much a km
I assumed they are discarded (often near a bus stop) when the battery is exhausted but the bus firm might collect them, probably does eventually, doubtless the interweb knows where they are

That appears to be a problem of the hire system not the scooters themselves.

They are very heavy and useless/dangerous, the only thing one could do is scoot downhill without a brake :?

Are they any heavier that a bicycle?
I'm presuming we're having a discussion about electrically powered scooters,in which case they'll go up hill as well as down and the one's I've seen all have a brake like the non electric ones.
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Re: escooters get contolled in France

Postby Oldjohnw » 26 Oct 2019, 8:34am

You must remember that bp wants everything and everyone off the road except himself and possibly a couple of others, preferably in different towns or even different countries.

I may exaggerate a little. But just a little. :)
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Re: escooters get contolled in France

Postby brynpoeth » 26 Oct 2019, 8:39am

Oldjohnw wrote:You must remember that bp wants everything and everyone off the road except himself and possibly a couple of others, preferably in different towns or even different countries.

I may exaggerate a little. But just a little.

Wrong again, please stop trying to 'interpret' my words, I mentioned halving traffic volume and I just want them all obeying the law!!
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Not at all sure what you think, you make some right queer statements
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Googled the weight: 51 kg without batteries
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Re: escooters get contolled in France

Postby Oldjohnw » 26 Oct 2019, 8:44am

brynpoeth wrote:
Oldjohnw wrote:You must remember that bp wants everything and everyone off the road except himself and possibly a couple of others, preferably in different towns or even different countries.

I may exaggerate a little. But just a little.

Wrong again, I just want them all obeying the law and of course much less motor traffic and travel/commuting

Please not to try to explain what I think
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Googled the weight: 51 kg without batteries


I meant to place an emoticon to demonstrate that my comment was tongue in cheek. I apologise. But I fear you have in the past done just that to me on more than one occasion ie put words in my mouth and told me how to live my life.
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