SPOILERS - Six Nations Rugby Kicks Off - ITV & BBC Tomorrow

[NATURAL ANKLING]

Hi,
England Scotland on Saturday and Ireland Wales France Italy on Sunday.
I'm not sure about the England Scotland match, Scotland have got much better of late, I am talking of years not just the last couple of seasons.

[al_yrpal]

Scrums are now a ridiculous waste of time with the ball being blatently chucked to the scrum halfs hooker. What are they for? If its your scrum you cant lose. And, they ought to ban hoisting people up in the lineouts, its all become a joke.

Al (ex wing forward) anybody know what that was?

[NATURAL ANKLING]

Hi,

Scrums are now a ridiculous waste of time with the ball being blatently chucked to the scrum halfs hooker. What are they for? If its your scrum you cant lose. And, they ought to ban hoisting people up in the lineouts, its all become a joke.

Al (ex wing forward) anybody know what that was?

Not sure why but i guess the scum putin is to minimize strain and injuries?

[Bonefishblues]

Scrums are now a ridiculous waste of time with the ball being blatently chucked to the scrum halfs hooker. What are they for? If its your scrum you cant lose. And, they ought to ban hoisting people up in the lineouts, its all become a joke.

Al (ex wing forward) anybody know what that was?

I'd like to see feeding stopped too. I don't think that they are a waste of time though. And yes, I do know those blokes who used to hang off the sides of the scrum. Missed being one as I got coopted into the second row, and eventually into the front row.

[merseymouth]

Hi again, Well the scrum feed rules still say straight in central, so both hookers can have a chance to "Hook" it!
So if the feeling is that properly contested scrums are dangerous then action should be taken! After all if a team does not have a compliment of 3 specialist players in position then a scrum is declared "Un-Contested", usually happens due to injuries of carding.
Sometimes the scrum takes longer to get set fatigue must be setting in! Not a good practise. TTFN MM

[Bonefishblues]

That's why the front row earn the big(gest) bucks.

[NATURAL ANKLING]

Hi,
Well I can barely remember what happened about two weeks ago
England's were against Ireland if I remember correctly, England scored two early tries with kicks over the opponents close to the line, you don't see them very often.
Ireland had a lot of bad luck and the kicker was well off I think?
Then over the weekend England was red carded and Wales though struggling in the first half scored a try in the first 27 seconds of the second half.
The gap of about 10 points seem to stabilise and then Wales closed in again ending three points down on England.
Scotland France, two French guys off one yellow one red card, allows Scotland to dominate the match and win.
England's red card though we knew was coming Was bad practice opposed to Frances Fist to the face.
Both red cards affected both matches I feel.

[Bonefishblues]

Nice to see 'proper' French indiscipline again

Shaun's still got a big task on his hands.

[mattheus]

Nice to see 'proper' French indiscipline again

Shaun's still got a big task on his hands.

Hehe! I just wish they'd shown a bit more against England

Speaking as an ENG fan, I thought both red cards were justified. (the tackle on George North actually produced one of the nicest moments of the tournamen, when he shook hands with the guy who was walking off the pitch in disgrace. Looked like they both knew there was no ill intent.)

But I have an observation about the French red; the guy was provoked into the punch by White6 (IIRC!) who later won man-of-the-match. This player sprinted into the melee from a long way out, and this was the first thing the Ref mentioned to the TMO; of course 2 wrongs don't make a right, but it seems like White6 and Scotland were rewarded for getting involved when he didn't need to be. Seems to send the wrong message, IMO.

I also think Scotland had them on the back-foot before the card, well played Jocks.


Exciting finale, just a shame it won't resolve until (probably) October. I think 2001 is the precedent for this (ENG won the title that year )

[[XAP]Bob]

Nice to see 'proper' French indiscipline again

Shaun's still got a big task on his hands.

Hehe! I just wish they'd shown a bit more against England

Speaking as an ENG fan, I thought both red cards were justified. (the tackle on George North actually produced one of the nicest moments of the tournamen, when he shook hands with the guy who was walking off the pitch in disgrace. Looked like they both knew there was no ill intent.)

But I have an observation about the French red; the guy was provoked into the punch by White6 (IIRC!) who later won man-of-the-match. This player sprinted into the melee from a long way out, and this was the first thing the Ref mentioned to the TMO; of course 2 wrongs don't make a right, but it seems like White6 and Scotland were rewarded for getting involved when he didn't need to be. Seems to send the wrong message, IMO.

I also think Scotland had them on the back-foot before the card, well played Jocks.


Exciting finale, just a shame it won't resolve until (probably) October. I think 2001 is the precedent for this (ENG won the title that year )

I'm not sure about Tuilangi - Yellow certainly (and at that point in the match it made no difference which colour it was), George was being tackled in front of him, and it was a last line of defence tackle...

Absolutely agree that his leaving the pitch will be one of the highlights of the tournament.

[Postboxer]

Feeding scrums is ridiculous, I think the rules now say you can be a shoulder width towards your own side but the ball must still go straight in, at the moment they're just feeding it straight to the second row. If it gets any worse perhaps the ref should roll the ball in but they would just get accused of being biased.

I'm getting really annoyed at the amounts of offsides at the restarts, it's one of the easiest things to spot as nothing else is going on but at the moment I'm surprised to see a legal restart. Also the amount of blocking of runners at the restarts, moving intentionally into the path of a player without the ball is blocking. The Welsh try at the start of the second half may have been partially down to them blocking England's chaser, although he was probably offside at the kick off anyway. Later in the game, the English actually formed a wall in front of where a kick was about to land. I thought the Tuilagi red card was very harsh, I think he did try to wrap the arm, but North's momentum seemed to suddenly stop and his head popped up at the wrong time, previous to that his body had been horizontal and Tuilagi accordingly had his arm down with forearm forwards, ready to lift and drive North into touch, it's rugby, accidents happen. Didn't really study the Genge yellow but to me it looked like the ball was out but I couldn't see where the offside line was, I also couldn't see that there could be anyone there to make him offside.

[NATURAL ANKLING]

Hi,
I forgot about the other matches.
England gave Wales a real good stuffing Unfortunately.
It started well for Wales as they steamrollered England in the scrum to gain possession
After that it went a bit pear shaped bit like the players, I dont think ide I fancy going up against some of them, Wales did score a penalty try automatic seven, equalising England seven unfortunately they lacked the other 40 points.
So the score was more like a bit of a lottery numbers sake.
66 to 7, a couple of years back I remember England getting stuffed by Wales by about 50 points.
Some of them had black eyes too, not Sure that you still want to call them gentler sex
England are out in front way ahead of everybody else 19 points.
Wales unfortunately Are struggling on one.

[Bonefishblues]

Wales are really missing Shaun Edwards. French can't believe their luck (and I'm puzzled why he hasn't become a Head Coach - can't be for the lack of offers, shirley?)

[Mick F]

Iand watched "The Train" a terrific 1964 film about stolen art with Burt Lancaster. One for Mick when hes not up the pub :lol

Not been in a pub since yesterday, and that was only for one pint.

The Train eh?
Is that available on YouTube?

This one is good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FMBtg4m_iY

[Mick F]

1964 Burt Lancaster The Train.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6h3e7a
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6h36al

I might watch it later.