Panic buying, hoarding

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Re: Panic buying, hoarding

Postby Bonefishblues » 29 Mar 2020, 9:50pm

fullupandslowingdown wrote:I can't believe it, I'm actually largely in agreement with CC on this one topic. I just read the finer points of the super enhanced unemployment benefit scheme (hereinafter referred to the 'buy them off before they riot' scheme)
Apparently, if you have two jobs, you can get 80% or up to £2500 a month for each job.

Which means in theory, you could get bunged more money in one month than an unemployed person does in a year

and all these years a number of daily mail readers have been calling unemployed people workshy lazy benefit scroungers. well done boris.corona.uk, nice one. Me thinks maybe the government knew all along this virus was coming and devised extensive plans for it. And maybe Sajid Javid had refused to sign off on this fiscal aid package back in February, because he knew it would almost bankrupt the treasury.

HMRC certainly didn't. It took them several days to work out the details of the scheme, which were published late on Thursday.

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Re: Panic buying, hoarding

Postby al_yrpal » 29 Mar 2020, 9:52pm

Oldjohnw wrote:I still can't find yeast but I'm enjoying experimenting with soda bread.


Sourdough! Google Paul Hollywood's sourdough, easy and delicious. No yeast needed.

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Re: Panic buying, hoarding

Postby Oldjohnw » 29 Mar 2020, 10:06pm

al_yrpal wrote:
Oldjohnw wrote:I still can't find yeast but I'm enjoying experimenting with soda bread.


Sourdough! Google Paul Hollywood's sourdough, easy and delicious. No yeast needed.

Al


Thanks, Al. Will do.
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Re: Panic buying, hoarding

Postby Cugel » 29 Mar 2020, 10:22pm

ossie wrote:
carpetcleaner wrote:
fullupandslowingdown wrote:
exactly the same as any other worker does


Agreed. You have to go where the work is.

The work won't come to you.

One thing is certain. While huge numbers of workers are idle because of the virus there is not a shortage of people available to work in the fields.

Get them to work if they want their 80% of normal wages. If they don't want the work then no taxpayer cash for them. Seems fair to me.


Lets be honest you don't have to go anywhere unless you actually want to work in a field.

Bloody hell you sound like my Daily Mail reading mum.


It might be her! Anyone can have any pseudonym they like, even your mumsie.

Mind, the nature of The Hate Mail is not just that its read but that the toxic memes and notions then chew their way through yer brain then out of yer gob! Those readers seem unable to stop the process. I believe the toxicity includes an element of pleasure-centre stimulation, see? What they need, those eye-sucking addicts of noxious nasty notions, is a kinder paperboy who will wang the Hate Mails and Borisgraphs into the sea each morning, delivering them a Beano instead.

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Re: Panic buying, hoarding

Postby 661-Pete » 29 Mar 2020, 10:56pm

al_yrpal wrote:
Oldjohnw wrote:I still can't find yeast but I'm enjoying experimenting with soda bread.


Sourdough! Google Paul Hollywood's sourdough, easy and delicious. No yeast needed.

Al
Hey!! What about my sourdough? Works fine for us!

All right, I had a look through Hollywood's version, along with his starter. Grapes in the starter, indeed?! Yes, I've heard of that method, even tried it once, and my verdict is, it doesn't work. Or, at least, it confers no advantage over making starter without grapes. Not with supermarket grapes, at any rate. But then, he says he uses "strong white flour" (not organic?), and tepid water (presumably tap water). This may work, but it's not the best. You should use organic stoneground flour, and bottled spring water. I use rye flour for the starter, I think it works better.

Then we come to the bread itself. White flour once again: well, OK for some, we prefer wholemeal. But baking at 220C for 30 minutes, then another 20 minutes at 200C? What'll come out of your oven won't be fresh bread, it'll be ryvita! I think Hollywood's got his figures mixed up a bit there. We bake for 30 minutes, no more, at 200C. Simple!

Am I about to be sued by Mr Hollywood, armed with his BBC Lawyers? OK - perhaps his recipe does work after all. But so does mine....

High horse duly dismounted.... :oops: :lol:
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Re: Panic buying, hoarding

Postby Oldjohnw » 29 Mar 2020, 11:15pm

661-Pete wrote:
al_yrpal wrote:
Oldjohnw wrote:I still can't find yeast but I'm enjoying experimenting with soda bread.


Sourdough! Google Paul Hollywood's sourdough, easy and delicious. No yeast needed.

Al
Hey!! What about my sourdough? Works fine for us!

All right, I had a look through Hollywood's version, along with his starter. Grapes in the starter, indeed?! Yes, I've heard of that method, even tried it once, and my verdict is, it doesn't work. Or, at least, it confers no advantage over making starter without grapes. Not with supermarket grapes, at any rate. But then, he says he uses "strong white flour" (not organic?), and tepid water (presumably tap water). This may work, but it's not the best. You should use organic stoneground flour, and bottled spring water. I use rye flour for the starter, I think it works better.

Then we come to the bread itself. White flour once again: well, OK for some, we prefer wholemeal. But baking at 220C for 30 minutes, then another 20 minutes at 200C? What'll come out of your oven won't be fresh bread, it'll be ryvita! I think Hollywood's got his figures mixed up a bit there. We bake for 30 minutes, no more, at 200C. Simple!

Am I about to be sued by Mr Hollywood, armed with his BBC Lawyers? OK - perhaps his recipe does work after all. But so does mine....

High horse duly dismounted.... :oops: :lol:


I found plenty of recipes on the Google thingy.
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Re: Panic buying, hoarding

Postby carpetcleaner » 29 Mar 2020, 11:23pm

Cugel wrote:
ossie wrote:
carpetcleaner wrote:
Agreed. You have to go where the work is.

The work won't come to you.

One thing is certain. While huge numbers of workers are idle because of the virus there is not a shortage of people available to work in the fields.

Get them to work if they want their 80% of normal wages. If they don't want the work then no taxpayer cash for them. Seems fair to me.


Lets be honest you don't have to go anywhere unless you actually want to work in a field.

Bloody hell you sound like my Daily Mail reading mum.


It might be her! Anyone can have any pseudonym they like, even your mumsie.

Mind, the nature of The Hate Mail is not just that its read but that the toxic memes and notions then chew their way through yer brain then out of yer gob! Those readers seem unable to stop the process. I believe the toxicity includes an element of pleasure-centre stimulation, see? What they need, those eye-sucking addicts of noxious nasty notions, is a kinder paperboy who will wang the Hate Mails and Borisgraphs into the sea each morning, delivering them a Beano instead.

Cugel, still missing The Rover & Adventure (and sometimes The Topper).


Magnificent.

I am rendered speechless.

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Re: Panic buying, hoarding

Postby Graham » 30 Mar 2020, 8:58am

:wink:

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Re: Panic buying, hoarding

Postby 661-Pete » 30 Mar 2020, 9:15am

carpetcleaner wrote:
Cugel wrote:Mind, the nature of The Hate Mail is not just that its read but that the toxic memes and notions then chew their way through yer brain then out of yer gob! Those readers seem unable to stop the process. I believe the toxicity includes an element of pleasure-centre stimulation, see? What they need, those eye-sucking addicts of noxious nasty notions, is a kinder paperboy who will wang the Hate Mails and Borisgraphs into the sea each morning, delivering them a Beano instead.

Cugel, still missing The Rover & Adventure (and sometimes The Topper).


Magnificent.

I am rendered speechless.
Come come, CC! You can do better than that! Let's hear your take on the Grauniad, then!
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Re: Panic buying, hoarding

Postby Ben@Forest » 30 Mar 2020, 9:46am

The best cod-philosopher on this forum, by some distance, is Cugel. It is so good some of it should be in Pseuds Corner. Of course that could equally mean it's so bad.... :wink:

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Re: Panic buying, hoarding

Postby Bonefishblues » 30 Mar 2020, 9:50am

It's important to recognise a true artist and their work. We have many flavours of artists on here :D

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Re: Panic buying, hoarding

Postby reohn2 » 30 Mar 2020, 9:59am

carpetcleaner wrote:
Magnificent.

I am rendered speechless.

Let's hope it's permanent :)
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Re: Panic buying, hoarding

Postby roubaixtuesday » 30 Mar 2020, 10:09am

carpetcleaner wrote:
Magnificent.

I am rendered speechless.


Go Cugel!

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Re: Panic buying, hoarding

Postby merseymouth » 30 Mar 2020, 10:17am

Hi Cugel, Deliver a copy a copy of the Beano? Well, tha'ts fine and "Dandy", maybe even a Bunty as I've been pointed towards???
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Re: Panic buying, hoarding

Postby Cugel » 30 Mar 2020, 10:21am

carpetcleaner wrote:
Cugel wrote:
ossie wrote:
Lets be honest you don't have to go anywhere unless you actually want to work in a field.

Bloody hell you sound like my Daily Mail reading mum.


It might be her! Anyone can have any pseudonym they like, even your mumsie.

Mind, the nature of The Hate Mail is not just that its read but that the toxic memes and notions then chew their way through yer brain then out of yer gob! Those readers seem unable to stop the process. I believe the toxicity includes an element of pleasure-centre stimulation, see? What they need, those eye-sucking addicts of noxious nasty notions, is a kinder paperboy who will wang the Hate Mails and Borisgraphs into the sea each morning, delivering them a Beano instead.

Cugel, still missing The Rover & Adventure (and sometimes The Topper).


Magnificent.

I am rendered speechless.


Who that speaking then? Has your CUK account been suborned by a socialist!!!? They do that; or so I heard from a Daily Mail reader.

Cugel