Is the UK government an incompentent bunch of liars?

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Re: Is the UK government an incompentent bunch of liars?

Postby reohn2 » 1 Jun 2020, 5:12pm

roubaixtuesday wrote:Cunobelin,

CC is merely trying to provoke responses. The more provided, the happier CC will be.

I think he knows that,he's merely ripping blackbike's game apart,and all the other sycophants who mistakenly believe the Tory party are good for the country :wink:
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Re: Is the UK government a noble group of selfless statespersons and public servants?

Postby Cunobelin » 1 Jun 2020, 5:14pm

carpetcleaner wrote:
Cunobelin wrote:
Cyril Haearn wrote:Is the UK government a noble group of selfless statespersons and public servants?
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Perhaps the mods could change the title to something neutral, and add an anonymous poll


Stan / CC doesn't seem to like polls anymore (after posting lots of them) now his latest link has become inconvenient


I last posted a poll result at 8.05 am today.

It was the one showing the Conservatives with a ten point lead.

I'm am unconcerned by your imaginative analysis of the poll results on Britain Elects, and pleased that you can convince yourself that they indicate that things are going well for Labour.

After the result of the 2016 people's vote when some people told us that 48 is a bigger number than 52 I've learned to enjoy the arithmetic contortions which some of my political opponents indulge in while they deny the grim reality of their predicament.


Did you read your link?

You do know that it shows the Tories well below their ratings of a few weeks ago. But then you have always had difficulty with facts.

Did you see the bits where it looks at the net Popularity rating

A couple of clues for you

+17 is a bigger number than 11
A decrease of zero is less than a decrease of -21

Keir Starmer: +17% (=)
Nicola Sturgeon: +12% (+9)
Boris Johnson: +11% (-21)
Ed Davey: -7% (=)
Nigel Farage: -21% (-1)


A couple of clues for you

+17 is a bigger number than 11
A decrease of zero is less than a decrease of -21

... and as you have aproblem with maths, here is a picture....

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Boris is the one nose-diving and below Starmer

Of course, as always you will dismiss the same polls that you expect everyone to believe when they are inconvenient

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Re: Is the UK government an incompentent bunch of liars?

Postby merseymouth » 1 Jun 2020, 5:17pm

Well you may take a horse to water, but a pencil must be lead! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I do believe that all politicians should be hooked up to Lie Detectors 24/7/52 :D MM

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Re: Is the UK government an incompentent bunch of liars?

Postby Postboxer » 1 Jun 2020, 5:41pm

Does anyone know where Dominic Cummings' in-laws live? Someone somewhere must be investigating whether they've visited them as well on another jolly.

By the time Brexit actually happened, if you actually believe it really has, there were probably more people who would vote for remain than for leave. Such a success for taking back control. Also good how in no way is the country now controlled by some shadowy, un-elected figure who doesn't answer to the electorate.

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Re: Is the UK government an incompentent bunch of liars?

Postby Cunobelin » 1 Jun 2020, 5:48pm

roubaixtuesday wrote:Cunobelin,

CC is merely trying to provoke responses. The more provided, the happier CC will be.


I know, I just enjoy watching him try and evade the obvious.

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Re: Is the UK government an incompentent bunch of liars?

Postby roubaixtuesday » 1 Jun 2020, 5:49pm

Postboxer wrote:Does anyone know where Dominic Cummings' in-laws live? Someone somewhere must be investigating whether they've visited them as well on another jolly.


A bit further north.

No need to take a day out for a birthday trip to the castle though.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humphry_Wakefield

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Re: Is the UK government an incompentent bunch of liars?

Postby Postboxer » 1 Jun 2020, 5:59pm

roubaixtuesday wrote:
Postboxer wrote:Does anyone know where Dominic Cummings' in-laws live? Someone somewhere must be investigating whether they've visited them as well on another jolly.


A bit further north.

No need to take a day out for a birthday trip to the castle though.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humphry_Wakefield



It's a different world isn't it!

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Re: Is the UK government a noble group of selfless statespersons and public servants?

Postby Cunobelin » 1 Jun 2020, 6:49pm

Nursing and many other health care professions have been underfunded for training for many years, and there is a demographic time bomb. 37% of nurses reach retirement in the next ten years.

Johnson promised 50,000 more nurses, then revealed that it was a lie.

After unveiling the commitment last month, party sources confirmed the figure includes an estimated 18,500 existing nurses who will be encouraged to remain within the NHS, or attracted back after leaving.


What the Tories are saying is that their definition of "more" is in fact the same nurses in the same posts

Nurses are leaving the NHS at a massive rate, and under the Tory austerity with effective pay cuts every year, some 200,000 nurses have left the NHS under Tory austerity

Nurses leaving because of conditions or work-life balance have increased by 169%

We also have a problem with EU nurses returning to their home countries due to Brexit, and the lack of nurses entering the UK from the EU



Finally, the piece de resistance is the new immigration bill that places newly qualified nurses and health care professionals under the minimum cap for entry.

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Re: Is the UK government an incompentent bunch of liars?

Postby Mick F » 1 Jun 2020, 7:15pm

Who is in black?
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Mick F. Cornwall

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Re: Is the UK government an incompentent bunch of liars?

Postby Mike Sales » 1 Jun 2020, 7:17pm

Mick F wrote:Who is in black?
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Sturgeon, I think.

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Re: Is the UK government an incompentent bunch of liars?

Postby Cunobelin » 1 Jun 2020, 9:10pm

Mick F wrote:Who is in black?
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Sturgeon, - if you look at the numbers, she is on 12% as opposed to Boris on 11%, unfortunately, this places both names in the same space.

Interesting that even Corbyn is rising in popularity. Only Johnson is on a steep decline and Farage on a more gradual decline.

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Re: Is the UK government an incompentent bunch of liars?

Postby mercalia » 2 Jun 2020, 9:02am

I am wondering whether we will ever see the Daily Mail headline

Cummings, Cummings Gone!

as now its an employment tribunal case where he is named and if it succeeds he will be personally liable for damages.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jun/01/government-fails-to-distance-dominic-cummings-from-sex-discrimination-case-boris-johnson?

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Re: Is the UK government an incompentent bunch of liars?

Postby Vorpal » 2 Jun 2020, 1:36pm

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