carpetcleaner wrote:reohn2 wrote:And not least Thatcher's refusal to boycott Apartheid in South Africa due to her husband's business interests in the mining industry there.
Mrs Thatcher did not lift any boycott on trade with South Africa when she took over from a Labour government.
The UK trades with all sorts of horrible regimes all the time regardless of whether a Labour or Conservative government is in power.
I didn't notice Tony Blair's government deciding to ban trade with China, Cuba, Vietnam, Saudi Arabia etc just because of their appalling human rights records and should we ever have a Labour government again I don't expect things will be much different.
I always found it a bit odd that those who protested against the South African apartheid regime because it treated some of its people very poorly indeed never protested against other regimes which treated all of their people in a terrible manner.
In some cases, as with Cuba, many of them actually praised appalling regimes and their leaders.
A vote for Labour is a vote to trade with countries with appalling humans rights record, as is a vote for the Conservatives.
I will reply to you this once,once only as you're arguments are not worthy of further effort or concpsideration such is the poor quality of them.
Speak for yourselfa vote for Corbyn may have made a difference in that respect, but that chance is goneAny government in the past 50 years or more needed a good dose human rights respect and conscience IMO.
Anyway to get back on track and the OP's(my) question which was:-
Is the present government an incompetent bunch of liars?
The case for their incompetence and lies has been proven to you beyond any shadow of doubt thanks to the dogged efforts of Cunobelin,respected person of this parish.
The only person attempting to defend the present government's incompetence and lies is you,which to any sane right thinking person following the thread,have lost in spectacular fashion.
As I've stated more than once on this thread "there are none so blind as them that will not see", you refuse to look at that which stares you in the face,which is the worse kind of blindness as a result you've obfuscated,squirmed and refused to even answer to the proof put before you on the subject.
A more true Tory there couldn't be by example.
As for the Labour party,I have no affiliations to it beyond a belief that I thought Corbyn would've done a better job as PM than the current wretch now not fit to clean his shoes,and the same goes for Starmer in a different way currently running rings arounsnthe buffoon now stuck alone in at PM's QT parliament unable to defend his pathetic excuses and further lies without the baying mob of back benchtory faithful standing behind him.
Frankly Mr Blackbike/Carpetcleaner,I couldn't give a monkey's what you think of that opinion it has more truth in it than your pathetic excuses which lack in any credibility whatsoever.
Have a nice day