[XAP]Bob wrote: The utility cyclist wrote:
Again many German scientists/experts within the German government state that the threat is massively less than first thought/imagined
2 metres, in fact any social distancing other than if you were going to visit a frail/vulnerable person and you were actually showing symptoms is ludicrous and always was.
Locking down has killed tens of thousands more in the UK and hundreds of thousands more yet is still far short of the deaths from influenzahttp://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/fe ... tvFChhSauY
I delved into the stats on another thread...
Hundreds of thousands is a little bit of an exaggeration - I assumed that the early signs of the year (about 400-500 people a month fewer than the 5 year average) continued and only came up with 65k surplus deaths this year.
The vast majority of those deaths are officially covid related - though there were some at the start which were probably mislabelled as flu/pneumonia exclusively.
I haven't looked at the other obvious stats (road deaths and suicide rates) to see what the change has been in those.
I omitted 'globally' after the hundreds of thousands, the tens of thousands of excess deaths are not due to a virus, the register of deaths makes this absolutely clear as the death toll from respiratory diseases is fewer this year than for any of the last 5 years year to date.
Here is the compiled death numbers FROM respiratory diseases by underlying cause for the last 6 years for England and Wales including a comparison up to the latest weekly report up to and including 12th June/Week 23. Each year shows the number of deaths to Week 23 for that year FROM respiratory diseases as underlying cause
All data is directly from the Office for National Statistics.
2019 was a 'good' flu year, also bear in mind population of England and Wales has increased by circa 3.5% since 2015 (approx 0.7%/year)
2020 - 36166
2019 - 36706 ~ 52 weeks 71674
2018 - 43883 ~ 52 weeks 76232
2017 - 38560 ~ 52 weeks 73413
2016 - 37133 ~ 52 weeks 72053
2015 - 42945 ~ 53 weeks 77276 (53 weeks due to the way the weeks fell in that year)
And as to your last sentence, this is again false, I've already made a formal complaint to ONS, they have produced another fake news release (again) regarding C.19 as underlying cause of death. They stated there are in actual fact more than double C.19 deaths by underlying cause than the total of ALL respiratory diseases by underlying cause, this cannot possibly be true
The total number of all respiratory deaths incl C.19 as underlying cause of death from 1st March to 6th June (the point of comparison) is 19,380, this is contained in the register of deaths for England and Wales.
ONS have (falsely) stated that total deaths FROM Covid19 as underlying cause of death is 43,763 for the same period!
Their description of majority of deaths WITh C.19 being underlying cause of death is the total opposite to what Neil Ferguson stated previously and what is reported elsewhere regards to deaths as underlying cause.
Even the NHS lists sub 1600 deaths FROM C.19 where it is the only ailment present!
Not only caught spreading fake news again, unlawfully so, but continue to misrepresent death numbers by misuse of language in their statements/press releases. On top of which we have the unprecedented way of attributing deaths with/involving an ailment even when that is not underlying cause, and on top of that attributing death despite no actual positive test and manipulating numbers by attributing C.19 instead of or as well as pneumonia in every single case.
If this had being done for influenza then we would have had literally half the deaths in the country attributed to influenza, but without the same regime of testing (Just two single flu tests done in mid April according to the weekly ILI report) you would of course not get the same results. the bias and confirmation bias through increased testing is ludicrous, it's even more ludicrous when you know the test is so flawed and tests positive for dead organic matter - as admitted by WHO!
The whole thing is an utter disgrace and the (unlawful) reaction has destroyed the economy and killed thousands prematurely who didn't die from any virus at all! Johnson and his advisers/'experts' should be put on trial for crimes again humanity, as should the Pharma shills that are WHO!