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Hi all, If e slip on to nicknames there were some cracking Dockers names - The Black & White minstrel, that was Cilla's dad - the Unknown Soldier, no one knew where he came from just turned up in an army great coat - one of the best was "Jellipex", you work it out. MM
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There was a certain practice in cycling clubs of naming people after their bikes, e.g. "Claud".
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wirral_cyclist wrote:It's pretty much compulsory for most North Walians I know to use their middle name as their forename is the same as their dad - back generations.
If you're going to always use the middle name it might as well be your forename and dad can have the middle slot.
Knowing surnames is tricky in Wales as people are often referred to by their profession Dai the Milk, Twm y ddol (blacksmith) or Will Hafod (the name of his farm) or whatever it might be.
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profpointy wrote:wirral_cyclist wrote:It's pretty much compulsory for most North Walians I know to use their middle name as their forename is the same as their dad - back generations.
If you're going to always use the middle name it might as well be your forename and dad can have the middle slot.
Knowing surnames is tricky in Wales as people are often referred to by their profession Dai the Milk, Twm y ddol (blacksmith) or Will Hafod (the name of his farm) or whatever it might be.
Indeed although he would be Wil Hafod, double LL having a diferent pronunciation- the unusual (even globally) lateral aspirant.
And stranger still.
The commonest surname in Wales is probably Jones.
It was pointed out to me once that the "J" sound is not a member of the Welsh language's phonetic inventory.
Word initiallly in the word "Jones" it is the only place you will hear it.
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Some were "opposites".al_yrpal wrote:Thinking back to times past people had nicknames that fitted them...
Fingers was always in the first aid room because he kept getting his fingers in the machinery.
Noddy had Tourettes syndrome ( a very cruel nickname)
Bumble came from Wigan, his speech sounded like "bumble bumble bumble"...
Ginger, was well ginger... that was me!
Spud is fairly obvious
And so on....![]()
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Curly was bald, Tiny was tall, Snowy was black, and we had Chalky Green, and Taffy for a Scottish bloke, for instance.
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I was known as 'Tusker' for a while at school, because the sports master told me that I had all the ball-control skills of a disabled elephant.
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Cugel wrote:philvantwo wrote:I worked with a chap on and off for a number of years and I was informed he passed away a couple of weeks ago, the funeral was last Thursday and there was a website you could log into to watch the service.
All those years and I always knew him as Colin, turns out that was his middle name as he didn't like his first name which was Derek!
Is there anybody on the forum who's done this?
Wot, "passed away, thus revealing their real name"? How can they tell you?
Where did this bit of cloying euphemism come from, btw? What's wrong with, died"; "is now dead" or something less obscure concerning the ceasing-to-be-alive? Where does what pass to and why is it away rather than here? I think we should be told!
Cugel, just passing by the forum.
I prefer the word "croaked" myself!
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Popped His Clogs, Turned His Toes Up, Brown Bread, Croaked et al
The "Passed Over" thing was something from olden times, quite common in old Irish Culture the folk moved on to the next world, then after a time would "Pass Over" again, returning to the original world, carried on ad infenitum!
With up old twiddlers it was surely early "Re-Cycling"? MM

The "Passed Over" thing was something from olden times, quite common in old Irish Culture the folk moved on to the next world, then after a time would "Pass Over" again, returning to the original world, carried on ad infenitum!
With up old twiddlers it was surely early "Re-Cycling"? MM
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I personally say "died" but people should be able to say what they want without fear of offending or criticism. Feelings come into this.
I like MM's recycling idea. Perhaps a bit Buddhist!
I like MM's recycling idea. Perhaps a bit Buddhist!
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My favourite uncle was Edwin Russell & always went by Russ. My family has lots of men called Keith, so most of them except my dad are called by their middle names at large family gatherings.
I know two people called Jack. One is William Johnathon & the other, as far as I know has John or Johnathon as a first name. He is also sometimes called John, and seems to answer to either.
I have sometimes been called by nicknames, based on my real name, but I've never been called by my middle name.
I know two people called Jack. One is William Johnathon & the other, as far as I know has John or Johnathon as a first name. He is also sometimes called John, and seems to answer to either.
I have sometimes been called by nicknames, based on my real name, but I've never been called by my middle name.
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Mike_Ayling wrote:I prefer the word "croaked" myself!
I worked with a chap who came in one day and said his grandson had asked him when was he going to turn into a frog,puzzled the chap asked his grandson why did ask such an odd thing.
The lad replied "coz me dad says when you croak were going to Disneyland".
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I was named “Sparky” in the RAF not because I was Trade Group 11 but I was a “Ham” operator.
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"Kick the bucket", is missed out AFAICS.
Anyone know the origin or reason?
An old neighbour of mine used it about himself when seriously unwell. So in that sense not really sweeping things under the carpet just being lightly humorous, and accepting.
Anyone know the origin or reason?
An old neighbour of mine used it about himself when seriously unwell. So in that sense not really sweeping things under the carpet just being lightly humorous, and accepting.
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Just been hearing about Captain John Byron, a sea-going relative of the poet, who had the fine nickname of Foul Weather Jack.
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PDQ Mobile wrote:"Kick the bucket", is missed out AFAICS.
Anyone know the origin or reason?
My guess is that it refers to the bucket one might stand on while adjusting the noose, and then kick away.