George Floyd death: Protesters tear down slave trader statue

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George Floyd death: Protesters tear down slave trader statue

Postby Philip Benstead » 7 Jun 2020, 4:33pm

George Floyd death: Protesters tear down slave trader statue

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52954305

Do you approve of it being torn down?
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Re: George Floyd death: Protesters tear down slave trader statue

Postby jgurney » 7 Jun 2020, 4:42pm

Philip Benstead wrote:Do you approve of it being torn down?

No, not in this way. A impromptu demolition like that could have injured someone, and there are constitutional ways of getting statues removed.
I approve of the view that Colston was not a fit person to be celebrated with a public statue, but it would be perfectly practical for the local council to have it safely removed by a contractor in due course.

The reeport states that the statue was then drsagged through the streets and thrown into the River Avon. The river is not a rubbish tip and an object that large could become a hazard to boats. Either the local council or the harbour authority will probably have to go to some expense to remove it: probably a lot more expense than if it had been left lying where it fell.
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Re: George Floyd death: Protesters tear down slave trader statue

Postby Marcus Aurelius » 7 Jun 2020, 4:44pm

They’ll get theirs. SARS-CoV-2 is a very nasty customer. These protests are the epitome of a ‘super spreader event’. There will be a second wave of Covid-19 deaths as a result, we’ll all be back in lockdown by the end of the month. Then the ‘protestors’ will be about as popular as a fart in a spacesuit.

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Re: George Floyd death: Protesters tear down slave trader statue

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Re: George Floyd death: Protesters tear down slave trader statue

Postby mercalia » 7 Jun 2020, 4:50pm

its pathetic. The people should be identified and prosecuted - i think it is a grade 2 listed monument. Hypocracy? The town and citizens benefited from his wealth that he donated after his death to charity? Any descendants should do an account of the conequences of the mans charity and demand it be given back ( with interest)

An example. Some thing similar happened to the uni in Johannesburg south Africa where the students voted to remove a statue of Cecil Rhodes that great Bristish Imperialist. Yeh.......But one thing they didnt do is to return the land the uni campus is built on to any descendants - C.R donated the land to the uni :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: Such hypocracy?

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Re: George Floyd death: Protesters tear down slave trader statue

Postby mercalia » 7 Jun 2020, 4:58pm

Marcus Aurelius wrote:They’ll get theirs. SARS-CoV-2 is a very nasty customer. These protests are the epitome of a ‘super spreader event’. There will be a second wave of Covid-19 deaths as a result, we’ll all be back in lockdown by the end of the month. Then the ‘protestors’ will be about as popular as a fart in a spacesuit.


Protestor: Oh dear I am ill with covid-19
NHS worker: Oh dear what a shame. **** off you got what you deserve.

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Re: George Floyd death: Protesters tear down slave trader statue

Postby D363 » 7 Jun 2020, 5:07pm

It's quite possible the protester and the NHS worker is one and the same.

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Re: George Floyd death: Protesters tear down slave trader statue

Postby Cyril Haearn » 7 Jun 2020, 5:12pm

Don't know Bristol well but I have read of Colston, there have been many discussions and consultations about removing the statue, renaming streets, but next to nothing was done, just more blathering
Hope this wakes the authorities up
Reminds one of 1989 in eastern Europe, +1

I should not join such a protest, I am not a herd-animal
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Re: George Floyd death: Protesters tear down slave trader statue

Postby mercalia » 7 Jun 2020, 5:15pm

D363 wrote:It's quite possible the protester and the NHS worker is one and the same.


then Physician, heal thyself ( at home)
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Re: George Floyd death: Protesters tear down slave trader statue

Postby Mike Sales » 7 Jun 2020, 5:15pm

D363 wrote:It's quite possible the protester and the NHS worker is one and the same.


And they are suffering disproportionately from Covid for the same reasons they are protesting.

The Council have had plenty of "due course" to take down the slaver's statue.
Colston's money with which he was so generous was made of the back of black slaves, just as the land Rhodes gave was taken from its owners.
These protestors (why does protestors need inverted commas?) owe nothing to Colston or Rhodes, quite the reverse. It is not hypocrisy.
They are angry enough to act rashly because this seems to be an occasion when they can express their resentment of racism.

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Re: George Floyd death: Protesters tear down slave trader statue

Postby mercalia » 7 Jun 2020, 5:18pm

Mike Sales wrote:
D363 wrote:It's quite possible the protester and the NHS worker is one and the same.


And they are suffering disproportionately from Covid for the same reasons they are protesting.

The Council have had plenty of "due course" to take down the slaver's statue.
Colston's money with which he was so generous was made of the back of black slaves, just as the land Rhodes gave was taken from its owners.
These protestors (why does protestors need inverted commas?) owe nothing to Colston or Rhodes, quite the reverse. It is not hypocrisy.
They are angry enough to act rashly because this seems to be an occasion when they can express their resentment of racism.


ah I claim my 5,000,000 Zimbabwe dollars. You are Robert Mugabe
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Re: George Floyd death: Protesters tear down slave trader statue

Postby Mike Sales » 7 Jun 2020, 5:21pm

mercalia wrote:
ah I claim my £5 you are Robert Mugabe


Are you really so silly?
If you think that Colston was not a slaver, say so, and justify it.

Edited to add: are you Donald Trump?

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Re: George Floyd death: Protesters tear down slave trader statue

Postby mercalia » 7 Jun 2020, 5:34pm

Mike Sales wrote:
mercalia wrote:
ah I claim my £5 you are Robert Mugabe


Are you really so silly?
If you think that Colston was not a slaver, say so, and justify it.


it seems he was. so what? If you are a Bristolian and detest the man then return his dirty money that your forbears gladly accepted. ( with 300 years of compound interest pls)

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Re: George Floyd death: Protesters tear down slave trader statue

Postby D363 » 7 Jun 2020, 5:38pm

So what? Seriously?

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Re: George Floyd death: Protesters tear down slave trader statue

Postby Mike Sales » 7 Jun 2020, 5:40pm

mercalia wrote:
Mike Sales wrote:
mercalia wrote:
ah I claim my £5 you are Robert Mugabe


Are you really so silly?
If you think that Colston was not a slaver, say so, and justify it.


it seems he was. so what? If you are a Bristolian and detest the man then return his dirty money that your forbears gladly accepted. ( with 300 years of compound interest pls)


So what? So what!
Is it usual to return stolen money to the thief, even without interest?
Maybe the money should go to the descendants of the people whose labour and suffering made it for Colston?
The city should have taken down the statue years ago, it is the least they could do.