Vorpal wrote:There are a couple of things about this... 1) I was not refering spcifically to crime prevention, but to avoiding the economic and social challenges that create an environment where crime is acceptable 2) Some of the crime prevention currently in place is not effective, and may, in fact, have the opposite effect because it presents choices as if the police, schools, and system are good, and crime is bad, where increasingly crimilaised youth can observe for themselves that is not necessarily so clear cut.
It's the law of unintended consequences. I remember reading that in 1997 New Labour wanted to address youth offending more effectively to try to identify problems quickly and intervene. It meant more children put through legal processes and the court system than before. But the idea of criminalising more children had not been the intention.
Vorpal wrote:There are a couple of things about this... 1) I was not refering spcifically to crime prevention, but to avoiding the economic and social challenges that create an environment where crime is acceptable 2) Some of the crime prevention currently in place is not effective, and may, in fact, have the opposite effect because it presents choices as if the police, schools, and system are good, and crime is bad, where increasingly crimilaised youth can observe for themselves that is not necessarily so clear cut.
It's the law of unintended consequences. I remember reading that in 1997 New Labour wanted to address youth offending more effectively to try to identify problems quickly and intervene. It meant more children put through legal processes and the court system than before. But the idea of criminalising more children had not been the intention.
But it has happened. And made worse by the government increasingly relying on charities and youth organisations to make up the slack.
“In some ways, it is easier to be a dissident, for then one is without responsibility.” ― Nelson Mandela, Long Walk to Freedom
Seems that what might be called the 'establishment' are slowly divesting themseves of BLM accoutrements. The SDP blog is interesting, as is the fact that the £1 million or so raised by BLM UK won't be able to be scrutinised.
all these will damn you to hellfire and eternal damnation
Starkey is a nasty piece of work. Hopefully he has closed the door to further TV documentaries with his latest outburst. There is something wrong with the man.
And you don't have to be part of a mob to be disgusted by him.
pwa wrote:Starkey is a nasty piece of work. Hopefully he has closed the door to further TV documentaries with his latest outburst. There is something wrong with the man.
And you don't have to be part of a mob to be disgusted by him.
+1,he's one of those people you can't help taking an instant dislike to after listening to him for no more than a few minutes.
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"All we are not stares back at what we are"
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pwa wrote:Starkey is a nasty piece of work. Hopefully he has closed the door to further TV documentaries with his latest outburst. There is something wrong with the man.
And you don't have to be part of a mob to be disgusted by him.
+1,he's one of those people you can't help taking an instant like to after listening to him for no more than a few minutes.
hmm did you mean to say that?
any way our favorite tv cowboy maybe the next person for the BLM mob?
mercalia wrote:any way our favorite tv cowboy maybe the next person for the BLM mob?
Looking at what Sharon alleges in that poster apparently Wayne disliked horses. When asked about it he said he only rode them when he was paid. Perhaps he'd be pleased if any statues of him on a horse were pulled down!
Many of us are aware of that,the BLM movement only came about because BAME people's lives matter less than white people,which is apparent to me and many,many other people around the world.
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"All we are not stares back at what we are"
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Many of us are aware of that,the BLM movement only came about because many of us also are aware BAME people's lives matter less,which is apparent to me and many,many other people around the world.
This is so obvious that one can only think that such "corrections" are a wilful misunderstanding.
It's the same the whole world over
It's the poor what gets the blame
It's the rich what gets the pleasure
Isn't it a blooming shame?
