Remember the ferry contract given to the company without ships?

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reohn2
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Re: Remember the ferry contract given to the company without ships?

Postby reohn2 » 19 Jun 2020, 9:12pm

mikeymo wrote:
reohn2 wrote:About the app:- https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-53105642


Steve
Seems soft lad doesn't know what you do :wink:


I assume you work in software development?

You assume wrong,but I know someone who does.
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Re: Remember the ferry contract given to the company without ships?

Postby kwackers » 19 Jun 2020, 9:15pm

mikeymo wrote:
kwackers wrote:Now the tracking app - that's a different story.
I could definitely have sorted that - and created one that would have worked to boot.


Of course you would.

I'm great at doing other people's jobs too. That Gareth Southgate is rubbish, I should be England manager.

I'd be doing my own job, something I've spent the last 40 years doing.

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Re: Remember the ferry contract given to the company without ships?

Postby kwackers » 19 Jun 2020, 9:58pm

mikeymo wrote:Exactly. Somebody else is doing it, not you. Coulda woulda shoulda.

Except of course they're not (anymore).
Couldn't wouldn't shouldn't.

You've got monkeys in charge, buying services from companies that can't deliver and when they do it's more by luck than judgement.
Comedy gold.

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Re: Remember the ferry contract given to the company without ships?

Postby reohn2 » 20 Jun 2020, 9:31am

kwackers wrote:
mikeymo wrote:Exactly. Somebody else is doing it, not you. Coulda woulda shoulda.

Except of course they're not (anymore).
Couldn't wouldn't shouldn't.

You've got monkeys in charge, buying services from companies that can't deliver and when they do it's more by luck than judgement.
Comedy gold.

Yer not wrong.
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Re: Remember the ferry contract given to the company without ships?

Postby Paulatic » 20 Jun 2020, 9:47am

Remember the Satellite system :)

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Remember the ferry contract given to the company without ships?

Postby Syd » 20 Jun 2020, 10:28am

An OJEU tender takes a minimum of 45 days from publication of the contract notice to the end of the standstill period.

In reality the time is even longer as the contract notice has to be generated and a period of evaluation of responses included.

A properly ran tender can run into months.

It seems that over £1b worth of contracts have been fast tracked following suspension of the standard rules during this pandemic.

I have 34 perfectly capable intensive care ventilators sitting on site that would not yet been purchased under standard rules.

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Re: Remember the ferry contract given to the company without ships?

Postby philg » 20 Jun 2020, 10:37am

Paulatic wrote:Remember the Satellite system :)

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Seems sense is about to prevail, though not holding my breath

FT today
Ministers are set to scale back plans for a £5bn sovereign satellite navigation system — a project championed as a symbol of post-Brexit Britain — and are considering a groundbreaking alternative that would cost billions less and could draw US support.
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Moreover, the US was pushing its partner in the Five Eyes intelligence-sharing alliance to avoid replicating the GPS system, said three people with knowledge of the situation. “The Americans do not think a British Galileo would be sufficiently different to GPS,” said one. “They understand the vulnerabilities of GPS. They want something technologically different.”

US officials had been drawn to the idea that important navigation technology could be “hidden in plain sight” on up to 80 of OneWeb’s planned 648 satellites, making them harder to compromise, according to two people who held discussions with both US defence officials and the UK government.

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Re: Remember the ferry contract given to the company without ships?

Postby reohn2 » 20 Jun 2020, 10:41am

Syd wrote:An OJEU tender takes a minimum of 45 days from publication of the contract notice to the end of the standstill period.

In reality the time is even longer as the contract notice has to be generated and a period of evaluation of responses included.

A properly ran tender can run into months.

It seems that over £1b worth of contracts have been fast tracked following suspension of the standard rules during this pandemic.

I have 34 perfectly capable intensive care ventilators sitting on site that would not yet been purchased under standard rules.

I fully understand the need for fast tracking contracts in a time of national crisis,it was the company used that seemed suspect.
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Re: Remember the ferry contract given to the company without ships?

Postby reohn2 » 20 Jun 2020, 10:55am

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Re: Remember the ferry contract given to the company without ships?

Postby sjs » 20 Jun 2020, 12:24pm

philg wrote:US officials had been drawn to the idea that important navigation technology could be “hidden in plain sight” on up to 80 of OneWeb’s planned 648 satellites, making them harder to compromise, according to two people who held discussions with both US defence officials and the UK government.


OneWeb went bankrupt in March, and made most of its staff redundant. At the moment it's not clear at all whether the remaining 580 satellites of he 648 planned will ever be launched, and if so who will own them and for what purpose.

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Re: Remember the ferry contract given to the company without ships?

Postby philg » 20 Jun 2020, 12:35pm

sjs wrote:
philg wrote:US officials had been drawn to the idea that important navigation technology could be “hidden in plain sight” on up to 80 of OneWeb’s planned 648 satellites, making them harder to compromise, according to two people who held discussions with both US defence officials and the UK government.


OneWeb went bankrupt in March, and made most of its staff redundant. At the moment it's not clear at all whether the remaining 580 satellites of he 648 planned will ever be launched, and if so who will own them and for what purpose.


Yes - the FT article concerns the discussions UK/USA are having over the possibility of OneWeb being transferred to the UK