Mc D's are back.

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Re: Mc D's are back.

Postby Mick F » 27 Jun 2020, 7:09pm

pete75 wrote:This guy knows how to deal with the likes of Mc D.
Wonderful!
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Re: Mc D's are back.

Postby ossie » 27 Jun 2020, 10:09pm

Oldjohnw wrote:
ossie wrote:
Oldjohnw wrote:The ideal trip appears to be:

Park illegally some where in Dorset
Camp on the beach at Bournemouth
Buy a McD's
Get drunk
Leave 40 tonnes of rubbish and beat up the rubbish collectors
Defecate in the McD box and leave it in the sand


Oh! to be in England.

PS and while you're at it, you may as well do your bit to bring about a second wave of the virus. And as the government is trying to build airbridges with EU holiday areas you have to wonder, will Brits be welcome?


Don't believe the council hype. This happens every summer, the current council are incapable of dealing with it.


If you say so.


Indeed. The beach is eight miles long. What happened was nothing much out of the ordinary. It happens every year( every time we have a mini heatwave)..... this year the press and his dog took a few selective pictures and the anti Tory council leader ramped up the rhetoric.

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Re: Mc D's are back.

Postby Oldjohnw » 27 Jun 2020, 11:20pm

I'm glad you're ok about 40 tonnes of rubbish on your beach. Just another day at the seaside. I did note that, despite you thinking that the complaints were just anti-Tory, Tory MPs and Cabinet Ministers took this seriously.
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Re: Mc D's are back.

Postby Oldjohnw » 28 Jun 2020, 3:40am

From Cumbria police yesterday evening:

Our teams and those of our partners have spoken to over 200 individuals tonight. From 20 people partying on catbells, to people camping with fires on summit cairns, to people who’ve driven miles down paths to camp, to drunken camps by tarns and everything in between.


Presumably just trick photography.
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Re: Mc D's are back.

Postby Bonefishblues » 28 Jun 2020, 8:25am

Oldjohnw wrote:From Cumbria police yesterday evening:

Our teams and those of our partners have spoken to over 200 individuals tonight. From 20 people partying on catbells, to people camping with fires on summit cairns, to people who’ve driven miles down paths to camp, to drunken camps by tarns and everything in between.


Presumably just trick photography.

That's 200 people in Cumbria though. There's an awful lot of Cumbria - I mean it's 1/3 the size of Wales :D

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Re: Mc D's are back.

Postby Oldjohnw » 28 Jun 2020, 8:27am

Yes. There was a 500 person rave in London. London's big and is home to millions so I guess the police should just have ignored it.
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Re: Mc D's are back.

Postby Bonefishblues » 28 Jun 2020, 8:31am

Oldjohnw wrote:Yes. There was a 500 person rave in London. London's big and is home to millions so I guess the police should just have ignored it.

Who is saying that should be ignored? Of course it needs to be addressed ona. public order and pandemic-linked basis.

All I've contributed to the thread is, I hope some perspective and deflation of the occasional bit of hyperbole :D

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Re: Mc D's are back.

Postby Oldjohnw » 28 Jun 2020, 8:32am

Bonefishblues wrote:
Oldjohnw wrote:Yes. There was a 500 person rave in London. London's big and is home to millions so I guess the police should just have ignored it.

Who is saying that should be ignored? Of course it needs to be addressed ona. public order and pandemic-linked basis.

All I've contributed to the thread is, I hope some perspective and deflation of the occasional bit of hyperbole :D


And all I did was quote either the police or local council. I exaggerated nothing.
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Re: Mc D's are back.

Postby Bonefishblues » 28 Jun 2020, 8:43am

Oldjohnw wrote:
Bonefishblues wrote:
Oldjohnw wrote:Yes. There was a 500 person rave in London. London's big and is home to millions so I guess the police should just have ignored it.

Who is saying that should be ignored? Of course it needs to be addressed ona. public order and pandemic-linked basis.

All I've contributed to the thread is, I hope some perspective and deflation of the occasional bit of hyperbole :D


And all I did was quote either the police or local council. I exaggerated nothing.

I did say on the thread. I was making a comment about the generality thereof, I hoped by clearly separating the two sentences.

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Re: Mc D's are back.

Postby Oldjohnw » 28 Jun 2020, 8:51am

Bonefishblues wrote:
Oldjohnw wrote:
Bonefishblues wrote:Who is saying that should be ignored? Of course it needs to be addressed ona. public order and pandemic-linked basis.

All I've contributed to the thread is, I hope some perspective and deflation of the occasional bit of hyperbole :D


And all I did was quote either the police or local council. I exaggerated nothing.

I did say on the thread. I was making a comment about the generality thereof, I hoped by clearly separating the two sentences.


Fair enough. And it was others who claimed trick photography or anti-Tory rhetoric.
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Re: Mc D's are back.

Postby Bonefishblues » 28 Jun 2020, 8:54am

Oldjohnw wrote:
Bonefishblues wrote:
Oldjohnw wrote:
And all I did was quote either the police or local council. I exaggerated nothing.

I did say on the thread. I was making a comment about the generality thereof, I hoped by clearly separating the two sentences.


Fair enough. And it was others who claimed trick photography or anti-Tory rhetoric.

TBF, taking a photo like that does foreshorten things, such as the 'along the beach' shots - something which didn't exactly undermine the thrust of the story.No trick, more technique, shall we say?

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Re: Mc D's are back.

Postby Oldjohnw » 28 Jun 2020, 8:57am

Bonefishblues wrote:
Oldjohnw wrote:
Bonefishblues wrote:I did say on the thread. I was making a comment about the generality thereof, I hoped by clearly separating the two sentences.


Fair enough. And it was others who claimed trick photography or anti-Tory rhetoric.

TBF, taking a photo like that does foreshorten things, such as the 'along the beach' shots - something which didn't exactly undermine the thrust of the story.No trick, more technique, shall we say?


Yes, I know. But unless someone actually lied - of course, always possibly - 40 tonnes plus stabbings and excrement is as it was. No camera technique. If that is normal at Bournemouth (which I doubt) I imagine it's high time it was addressed. With draconian methods.
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Re: Mc D's are back.

Postby pete75 » 28 Jun 2020, 9:07am

ossie wrote:
Oldjohnw wrote:
ossie wrote:
Don't believe the council hype. This happens every summer, the current council are incapable of dealing with it.


If you say so.


Indeed. The beach is eight miles long. What happened was nothing much out of the ordinary. It happens every year( every time we have a mini heatwave)..... this year the press and his dog took a few selective pictures and the anti Tory council leader ramped up the rhetoric.


Yes I'm sure Bournemouth gets lots of visitors each year. It's a seaside resort which sets out to attract them. It doesn't, as far as I'm aware, get a pandemic each years. That is the difference.

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Re: Mc D's are back.

Postby Paulatic » 28 Jun 2020, 9:39am

Can anyone explain what is happening and why
Oldjohnw wrote:From Cumbria police yesterday evening:

Our teams and those of our partners have spoken to over 200 individuals tonight. From 20 people partying on catbells, to people camping with fires on summit cairns, to people who’ve driven miles down paths to camp, to drunken camps by tarns and everything in between.


Presumably just trick photography.


I’m at a loss to understand what’s happening at the moment.
I’ve heard reports and seen pictures of the most selfish acts people are taking in the Lakes and recently up the Lune valley. Parking everywhere leaving roads inaccessible by larger, which of course could be a fire engine or tractor, and taking absolute liberties with peoples land.
I know the Lakes has always been busy, ( why I rarely go) but in all my life I’ve never spoke to farmers who are so upset. I can see the beginning of a real battle happening here.
The National Park Authority I though was there to protect the area. I’m seeing little evidence of that other than the usual looking after their own interests.
It’s easy to say these offending people are usually abroad in Benidorm but I don’t think it’s as simple as that. A congestion charge for the lakes or simply an enforced no parking anywhere apart from off road. The answer isn’t simple but looking around i can’t help but think education has been failing for at least 20 years and ignorance is accumulating.
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Re: Mc D's are back.

Postby Oldjohnw » 28 Jun 2020, 9:44am

Paulatic wrote:Can anyone explain what is happening and why
Oldjohnw wrote:From Cumbria police yesterday evening:

Our teams and those of our partners have spoken to over 200 individuals tonight. From 20 people partying on catbells, to people camping with fires on summit cairns, to people who’ve driven miles down paths to camp, to drunken camps by tarns and everything in between.


Presumably just trick photography.


I’m at a loss to understand what’s happening at the moment.
I’ve heard reports and seen pictures of the most selfish acts people are taking in the Lakes and recently up the Lune valley. Parking everywhere leaving roads inaccessible by larger, which of course could be a fire engine or tractor, and taking absolute liberties with peoples land.
I know the Lakes has always been busy, ( why I rarely go) but in all my life I’ve never spoke to farmers who are so upset. I can see the beginning of a real battle happening here.
The National Park Authority I though was there to protect the area. I’m seeing little evidence of that other than the usual looking after their own interests.
It’s easy to say these offending people are usually abroad in Benidorm but I don’t think it’s as simple as that. A congestion charge for the lakes or simply an enforced no parking anywhere apart from off road. The answer isn’t simple but looking around i can’t help but think education has been failing for at least 20 years and ignorance is accumulating.


Just wait until we bring our caravans and campers over the Border. Trouble is, the campsites are asking us to go and at the same time the people don't want us there. It is very complicated.

I shan't be going anywhere for quite a while.

There is a current view that we can all do whatever we want. Rules are there for personal interpretation. Just wait until the pubs open!
John