Modern bikes noisier?

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Modern bikes noisier?

Postby francovendee » 25 Jul 2020, 7:55am

I'm wondering if the use of modern materials and design have made bikes noisier?
When I hear a bike coming I know before seeing it if it's modern.
I wonder if it's the use of carbon frames and deep rims plus very noisy freeehubs that add up and make them noisier.

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Re: Modern bikes noisier?

Postby simonineaston » 25 Jul 2020, 8:02am

Oh definitely! There's an urgent insistance about the click of the spawls on a modern road bike that you never used to get. Even the venerable Sturmey Archers used to tick in a more leisurely way.
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Re: Modern bikes noisier?

Postby pwa » 25 Jul 2020, 8:07am

A combination of noisy freewheels and resonating carbon frames. Noise is now a consideration when I am looking for new bike components.

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Re: Modern bikes noisier?

Postby Cyril Haearn » 25 Jul 2020, 8:28am

Some have freewheels that make an awful dry clicking sound
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Re: Modern bikes noisier?

Postby Bonefishblues » 25 Jul 2020, 8:33am

I'd assumed it was some sort of safety measure :wink:

But seriously, yes, it's now rare you can't hear the approach of a cycle, and some make a right old racket.

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Re: Modern bikes noisier?

Postby pwa » 25 Jul 2020, 9:09am

There must be little tricks to dampening sound if you are lumbered with a noisy bike. Extra grease in voids in the hub, some sort of rubber band around resonating carbon tubes, perhaps.

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Re: Modern bikes noisier?

Postby Bonefishblues » 25 Jul 2020, 9:18am

I come from an era where one took pride in the silent running of one's bike, so short of filling the carbon tubes with expanding foam I think carbon's not the material for me.
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Re: Modern bikes noisier?

Postby Syd » 25 Jul 2020, 9:27am

Bonefishblues wrote:I'd assumed it was some sort of safety measure :wink:

But seriously, yes, it's now rare you can't hear the approach of a cycle, and some make a right old racket.

It is an interesting point. My commuter is almost silent, aside from tyre against tarmac, due to belt drive and Alfine rear hub.

I have to make a sound then coming up behind peds on shared use paths or I scare the bejesus out of them.

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Re: Modern bikes noisier?

Postby Mick F » 25 Jul 2020, 9:32am

Where we used to live in Lancashire when I was a kid, some road races came past almost weekly.
This was the early/mid 1960s.
I would be in raptures on hearing the "zing" of the tyres and the "swish" of the wheels whizzing past. Lovely clean sounds, and all shiny bling colours and polished alu and chrome. A sheer delight to watch and listen,

A few years ago, I watched the Tour of Britain come through, and it was horrible. Clunky drumming flat sounds that sounded like they were on wooden bikes.
No zing of the tyres either, and no swish of the wheels. All boring black, all utterly boring, and all completely unimpressive and a poor sad spectacle.

I wouldn't watch the tour again for those reasons alone.
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Re: Modern bikes noisier?

Postby francovendee » 25 Jul 2020, 9:47am

Bonefishblues wrote:I come from an era where one took pride in the silent running of one's bike, so short of filling the carbon tubes with expanding foam I think carbon's not the material for me.

I'm of the same mind. Apart from the swish of the tyres and a small amount from the tyres I try to keep my bike as noiseless as possible. I can tell instantly if I have a problem with the bike.

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Re: Modern bikes noisier?

Postby Tangled Metal » 25 Jul 2020, 9:55am

What confuses me is how the more you pay for your groupset the noisier it gets. My tiagra is quiet. But you see roadies with ultegra or better and gear changes come with a really loud click. You hear them going click, cc pick, click along the be road. Changing gears say every little change in incline. STFU you noisy [rude word removed], I'm out for a quiet ride in the countryside and give just stopped the birds singing with your clicking.

Blackbirds and starlings I believe are good mimics. I once heard one do a near perfect old style telephone ring. I fully expect on some popular cycle routes the blackbirds will be clicking loudly!

Why spend so much money getting the better gearing and accepting a louder noise? What is causing that loud click? Why doesn't my tiagra have it?

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Re: Modern bikes noisier?

Postby Bonefishblues » 25 Jul 2020, 10:11am

Tangled Metal wrote:
Why spend so much money getting the better gearing and accepting a louder noise? What is causing that loud click? Why doesn't my tiagra have it?

I think it's an ostentation thing TBH.

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Re: Modern bikes noisier?

Postby geocycle » 25 Jul 2020, 10:22am

It would be interesting to know which freehubs are quietist.I really dislike noises on my bikes and I was dissuaded from using a Hope hub on my next derailleur wheel by a friend who said his was like a machine gun.The novatec on my Spa is not too bad and the rohloff is wonderful on my Thorn :wink:

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Re: Modern bikes noisier?

Postby francovendee » 25 Jul 2020, 11:10am

Maybe there isn't the demand for silent freehubs so nobody makes them?
Perhaps there should be a dB value stated on the hubs? You could then find out and avoid the noisiest :)

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Re: Modern bikes noisier?

Postby peetee » 25 Jul 2020, 12:52pm

Bonefishblues wrote:
Tangled Metal wrote:
Why spend so much money getting the better gearing and accepting a louder noise? What is causing that loud click? Why doesn't my tiagra have it?

I think it's an ostentation thing TBH.


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