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https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/celebs-tv/cyclists-not-using-cycle-lanes-4511439.amp

Anyone know if there's a good reason for not using these green cycle lanes? Anyone from up that way? I suspect they're cyclist bashing again but don't know for sure.

Cyclists are just people who are on bikes at the current moment. Most of them walk and drive as well. It's unlikely that they behave differently then.

Build a motorway that starts and stops in weird places that aren't where people are, or where people want to go, and they won't use it. Build one that's less convenient than the nearby A road, and they won't use it either. Or a motorway that's blocked randomly, or feels more dangerous, or dumps motorists in dangerous places that they can't easily get out of, or ...

It's hard to tell from those photos but, if you assume that cyclists are rational people making rational route choices, in the same way as they do when they are using other transport modes, you'll find the reason. If you make the inexplicable assumption that cyclists will magically appear and ride on any cycle route, however incomplete, dangerous, or irrelevant to typical journeys, you won't.

I guess I'm asking if anyone actually goes that way and know whether the planners are rational for putting them there or not. Either cyclisti are rational in avoiding them for a valid reason and the planners weren't rational in locating them there. Or the cyclists are being unrational in not using suitably designed infrastructure.

I don't think it's so simple as saying cyclists are rational so they're right in avoiding them. It's a COVID cycle route as in a route put in because of increased cycle traffic through that way AFAIK. Whilst cycling infrastructure is often rubbish round here COVID cycling infrastructure is basically where cyclists ride. Not great but stupid thin cones the outside of reddish-pink road painted cycle lanes to emphasise it's a cycle lane. There's planters closing off a road leading to it as well. Not checked that out as my cycle route isn't near it but car drive route is.

I'd be interested to hear from any Hull based forum members who might be able to shed more light on this story and it's often ignored COVID cycling provisions.

Tangled Metal wrote:https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/celebs-tv/cyclists-not-using-cycle-lanes-4511439.amp

Anyone know if there's a good reason for not using these green cycle lanes? Anyone from up that way? I suspect they're cyclist bashing again but don't know for sure.

Not been there in years but the cycle lanes in the newspaper videos look like an unfinished building site and most of those in the sleb's videos appear to be riding contraflow, presumably doing pavement riding to avoid two right turns across that dual carriageway. It's not legal but isn't it obvious why they do it?

Bit late to answer this one but I'll give it a go.
1. the green paint is absolutely dog do to cycle on, it's bumpy and uneven all the way, same as the green stuff beofre it elsewhere and in every other town and city.
2. Few people cycled along this route because it was high density/high speed (despite it being a 30 zone) motor traffic, habits of taking to the footway as was fairly common in Hull (and that actually not being a problem casualty wise) are hard to break when they still feel safer and get you to where you want to go for the majority.
3. Most people in Hull drive, this is why the city is always congested, with the buses being totally decimated in terms of use, this is to be expected, like many places people won't convert to cycling just because there's some part of the road has [aint on it with a bicycle marked on top of it!
4. The lane is narrow and uninviting with objects along it, for me I'd hate this, I don't feel it offers me any protection but does make me feel like I'm more constrained and penned in, basically it's a half buttocked job that you can't cycle side by side so no good for parents with children or as is common in Hull, workers to ride side by side lighting a tab and having a chat or at all possible for people to overtake other slower cyclists.
5. Taking a left turn down the previous street or indeed the one shown (where the car turns) takes you onto roads that actually short cuts this main connector road (Freetown Way) into one of the industrial areas, the route over North bridge which in itself is absolute turd for cycling with all sorts of large vehicles bearing down on you.
From that there's no cycle lane further along there onto Holderness road nor the main road (Cleveland st into Stoneferry) that takes you into the industrial area along the banks of the Hull.
Stoneferry Road itself that takes you further North to more industrial/work places is shocking in all aspects, I used to ride this from home into the city centre for two years as a kid going to college in the mid to late 80s, it's horrendous with yet more micturate poor 'infra' that is dangerous and disjointed.
6. Beverley road which directly leads North from the city centre and is located West of the point in the video is okay, though the road surface is pants, it actually leads to residential areas and shops, you're more likely to see people cycling on that road and then cut North Easterly through the housing estates and the back roads potentially using the few half useful cut through lanes that were part of the old Sculcoates railway line.

Getting people out of cars unless you make it virtually impossible or feel massively unsafe (as has being done to cycling), remove on street parking in front of people's houses and somewhere to park up at journey end, or simply remove people's ability to have a car at all, means it simply won't happen, it's too late! Putting down green paint and expecting people to use it when it serves next to no purpose whatsoever is just naive thinking.