Breaking International Law
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Now, how many thousands of words would that have taken without the infographic?
Jonathan
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Is that the document which rather euphemistically says that physical customs checks are "normal" between different customs regions - and fails to find a single example in all of recorded history when they weren't applied. They aren't normal, they are a basic requirement.
A shortcut has to be a challenge, otherwise it would just be the way. No situation is so dire that panic cannot make it worse.
There are two kinds of people in this world: those can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are two kinds of people in this world: those can extrapolate from incomplete data.
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The table is from Usherwood at QUB... so probably not. : - )
https://twitter.com/Usherwood/status/14 ... 4828465156
Jonathan
https://twitter.com/Usherwood/status/14 ... 4828465156
Jonathan
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I'm uncertain if "Current Protocol" is "Acceptable to UK government" (ticked in the table). Whilst Johnson signed the treaty, he now seems to be claiming some conditions are not acceptable. Assuming "Current Protocol" is the treaty rather than the current state of the phased introduction.
Ian
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Fair point.
But a lot of the cells might prove tricky to fill if policy, design, negotiation, signing, and pushing through Parliament isn't evidence of acceptability...
Jonathan
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From another thread:
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/pressco ... ip_21_3747
Jonathan
"EU-UK relations: Commission proposes draft mandate for negotiations on Gibraltar"Jdsk wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 6:53pmSpain's foreign minster:Jdsk wrote:Rumours that Gibraltar will stay in the Customs Union and residents will get Schengen access...
“Today is a day for hope. In the long history of our relations with the UK, related to Gibraltar, today we’re facing a turning point. Schengen will be applied to Gibraltar, with Spain assuming responsibility as a member state. This will allow for the abolishment of controls between Spain and Gibraltar.”
Looks as if Spain will be a sort of sponsor for Schengen access and other EU programmes. Certainly sounds like a turning point to me.
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/pressco ... ip_21_3747
Jonathan
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And the (next) big day for the NIP is upon us.
interesting pre-emption from the USA:
“It's something that we are watching" says US State Department on UK announcement on #NorthernIreland protocol. "We encourage them to negotiate within the existing mechanisms when differences do arise.”
https://twitter.com/suzannelynch1/statu ... 0794076168
Jonathan
interesting pre-emption from the USA:
“It's something that we are watching" says US State Department on UK announcement on #NorthernIreland protocol. "We encourage them to negotiate within the existing mechanisms when differences do arise.”
https://twitter.com/suzannelynch1/statu ... 0794076168
Jonathan
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And it's out:
"Northern Ireland protocol - next steps":
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... next-steps
Followed by:
"Statement by Vice-President Maroš Šefčovič following today's announcement by the UK government regarding the Protocol on Ireland / Northern Ireland":
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/pressco ... NT_21_3821
and
...
"The European Commission president said on Thursday that Brussels will “be creative and flexible” over the Northern Ireland Protocol “but we will not renegotiate”."
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news ... 79687.html
Jonathan
"Northern Ireland protocol - next steps":
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... next-steps
Followed by:
"Statement by Vice-President Maroš Šefčovič following today's announcement by the UK government regarding the Protocol on Ireland / Northern Ireland":
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/pressco ... NT_21_3821
and
...
"The European Commission president said on Thursday that Brussels will “be creative and flexible” over the Northern Ireland Protocol “but we will not renegotiate”."
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news ... 79687.html
Jonathan
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DCMS yesterday:Psamathe wrote: ↑30 Jun 2021, 6:02pmTo me Roger Daltrey (The Who lead singer) sums up this up. A staunch supporter of Brexit but now we've "taken back control" he wants musicians to have special terms and conditions so they'll be able to enjoy the benefits they had when we were an EU member state.
He got what he wanted but now he's got it he's not happy with it and wants his EU membership privileges back!
"Visa-free short-term touring allowed in 19 member states"
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/visa ... ber-states
includes:
"We, as government, have spoken to every EU Member State about the issues facing our creative and cultural industries when looking to tour in Europe. From these discussions 19 Member States have confirmed UK musicians and performers do not need visas or work permits for short-term tours. These countries are: Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia, and Sweden."
Jonathan
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What about cyclists wanting to do tours? Is our Government representing that group or are they being ignored as there are not the big names supporting their cause ...Jdsk wrote: ↑5 Aug 2021, 8:30amDCMS yesterday:Psamathe wrote: ↑30 Jun 2021, 6:02pmTo me Roger Daltrey (The Who lead singer) sums up this up. A staunch supporter of Brexit but now we've "taken back control" he wants musicians to have special terms and conditions so they'll be able to enjoy the benefits they had when we were an EU member state.
He got what he wanted but now he's got it he's not happy with it and wants his EU membership privileges back!
"Visa-free short-term touring allowed in 19 member states"
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/visa ... ber-states
includes:
"We, as government, have spoken to every EU Member State about the issues facing our creative and cultural industries when looking to tour in Europe. From these discussions 19 Member States have confirmed UK musicians and performers do not need visas or work permits for short-term tours. These countries are: Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia, and Sweden."
Jonathan
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A musician friend tells me we already had this as a third country? His problem is moving equipment without possible vat being imposed.Jdsk wrote: ↑5 Aug 2021, 8:30amDCMS yesterday:Psamathe wrote: ↑30 Jun 2021, 6:02pmTo me Roger Daltrey (The Who lead singer) sums up this up. A staunch supporter of Brexit but now we've "taken back control" he wants musicians to have special terms and conditions so they'll be able to enjoy the benefits they had when we were an EU member state.
He got what he wanted but now he's got it he's not happy with it and wants his EU membership privileges back!
"Visa-free short-term touring allowed in 19 member states"
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/visa ... ber-states
includes:
"We, as government, have spoken to every EU Member State about the issues facing our creative and cultural industries when looking to tour in Europe. From these discussions 19 Member States have confirmed UK musicians and performers do not need visas or work permits for short-term tours. These countries are: Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia, and Sweden."
Jonathan
Is it just government spin?
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And the detailed documentation for the carnets?francovendee wrote: ↑5 Aug 2021, 11:33amA musician friend tells me we already had this as a third country? His problem is moving equipment without possible vat being imposed.
Jonathan
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The arrangements from 7 May 2021:francovendee wrote: ↑5 Aug 2021, 11:33amA musician friend tells me we already had this as a third country? His problem is moving equipment without possible vat being imposed.Jdsk wrote: ↑5 Aug 2021, 8:30amDCMS yesterday:Psamathe wrote: ↑30 Jun 2021, 6:02pm
To me Roger Daltrey (The Who lead singer) sums up this up. A staunch supporter of Brexit but now we've "taken back control" he wants musicians to have special terms and conditions so they'll be able to enjoy the benefits they had when we were an EU member state.
He got what he wanted but now he's got it he's not happy with it and wants his EU membership privileges back!
"Visa-free short-term touring allowed in 19 member states"
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/visa ... ber-states
includes:
"We, as government, have spoken to every EU Member State about the issues facing our creative and cultural industries when looking to tour in Europe. From these discussions 19 Member States have confirmed UK musicians and performers do not need visas or work permits for short-term tours. These countries are: Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia, and Sweden."
Is it just government spin?
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/working-per ... ying-staff
Jonathan
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"Trade bodies and unions representing British musicians have expressed frustration at a government announcement on European work visas that they say changes nothing."francovendee wrote: ↑5 Aug 2021, 11:33amA musician friend tells me we already had this as a third country? His problem is moving equipment without possible vat being imposed.Jdsk wrote: ↑5 Aug 2021, 8:30amDCMS yesterday:Psamathe wrote: ↑30 Jun 2021, 6:02pm
To me Roger Daltrey (The Who lead singer) sums up this up. A staunch supporter of Brexit but now we've "taken back control" he wants musicians to have special terms and conditions so they'll be able to enjoy the benefits they had when we were an EU member state.
He got what he wanted but now he's got it he's not happy with it and wants his EU membership privileges back!
"Visa-free short-term touring allowed in 19 member states"
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/visa ... ber-states
includes:
"We, as government, have spoken to every EU Member State about the issues facing our creative and cultural industries when looking to tour in Europe. From these discussions 19 Member States have confirmed UK musicians and performers do not need visas or work permits for short-term tours. These countries are: Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia, and Sweden."
Is it just government spin?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ies-brexit
Jonathan
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The grace periods have one month to run.
BBC news explainer:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-58356075
https://www.lucidtalk.co.uk/single-post ... ummer-2021
Jonathan
BBC news explainer:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-58356075
https://www.lucidtalk.co.uk/single-post ... ummer-2021
Jonathan