Dogs: Why? Why not?

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Re: Dogs: Why? Why not?

Postby Pebble » 10 Oct 2020, 7:02pm

FerociousDog wrote:Worse are those who pay extortionate amounts for mongrels aka “designer breeds”
Cockapoo,Labradoodle’insert-daft-cross-breed-name-here”.
£2500 for a Cockerpoo....they’re having a laugh!

Dogs are mans best friend.I can’t imagine not having a dog.It makes a family complete.


For the first time in my entire life I'm living without a dog - it's just weird not having a dog in the house.

We lost our wonderful Lab just over a year ago and decided not to get another as being free we were going to travel a lot for a few years- Our plans are not working out well.

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Re: Dogs: Why? Why not?

Postby Bonefishblues » 10 Oct 2020, 7:09pm

Cyril Haearn wrote:There is nothing to beat a Welsh Collie
Cymru am byth!

Welsh farmers, occasionally?

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Re: Dogs: Why? Why not?

Postby Carlton green » 10 Oct 2020, 7:09pm

Cyril Haearn wrote:There is nothing to beat a Welsh Collie


I not sure but perhaps you might just be showing a little bias. Collies can be lovely but no one should be in any doubt about their considerable exercise requirements. Lizzy in Windsor likes Corgis, as she could have anything she chose they’re probably a better choice than most others and suitably Welsh.

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Re: Dogs: Why? Why not?

Postby philvantwo » 10 Oct 2020, 8:08pm

We've got a Welsh springer spaniel, it was the brother in laws dog but he didn't want him so the Mrs said we'd have him. He was 3years old when we had him and he's 14 now. A lovely dog and hes been up Cadair Idris every year we've had him, we took him to Whitby one year and he ran along the cinder track to Robin Hood's bay and back.......16 miles!!!
We wont be having another one when he's passed away though, just too much of a tie all the time.
I just know its gonna break the Mrs's heart when he goes though.
:(

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Re: Dogs: Why? Why not?

Postby Carlton green » 11 Oct 2020, 11:33am

philvantwo wrote:We've got a Welsh springer spaniel, it was the brother in laws dog but he didn't want him so the Mrs said we'd have him. He was 3years old when we had him and he's 14 now. A lovely dog and hes been up Cadair Idris every year we've had him, we took him to Whitby one year and he ran along the cinder track to Robin Hood's bay and back.......16 miles!!!
We wont be having another one when he's passed away though, just too much of a tie all the time.
I just know its gonna break the Mrs's heart when he goes though.
:(


I’ve always thought it strange how people get a dog and then get tired of it, but it happens a lot and sometimes people have an adverse change in circumstances. Rehoming from a known source or to a trustworthy person can be a good option for all concerned.

When your dog does finally pass it will doubtless upset your Mrs, but however hardened you might think yourself to be be prepared for it to upset you too.

I have a cycling buddy who had a dog that died unexpectedly in mid age. He and his wife didn’t get another dog ‘cause it had been a tie. They had a few years without a dog and did all the things that they couldn’t do when they had one. Guess what, they now have a dog again and whilst they did enjoy the freedom for a while they no longer feel much frustration with the commitment. Having a dog is a funny balance between various costs and various benefits; I’d say that dogs really weren’t for everyone and in terms of ‘managing it all’ some periods of ones life are better than others.

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Re: Dogs: Why? Why not?

Postby simonineaston » 11 Oct 2020, 11:59am

Worse are those who pay extortionate amounts for mongrels aka “designer breeds”
I don't mind people paying daft amounts of money to get a dog - a fool & their money are soon parted... Lord knows I've paid over the odds for the odd item, now & then. But what 'does my 'ead in' to borrow from another thread, is a) the unscrupulous behaviour that follows on from the sniff of easy money, where dogs are mistreated frightfully to mass-produce vanity breed puppies, and b) the deliberate breeding of physical deformaties that make the dog's entire life difficult and stressful. I'm not talking about working breeds like collies or spaniels and I won't cite particular examples, as it's not my intention to be rude or disrespectful to this forum's readers, however this website will give a flavour of why I'm so cross about distorting the bodies of man's best friend, just for sake of vanity or whim.
The number of perfectly excellent unwanted dogs that end up in rescue homes ( and ultimately disposed of...) is truly upsetting. Why on earth people shell out shed-loads of dosh to buy the dog-of-the-moment (usually inspired by nothing more sensible than the favourite telly series!), instead of going down the shelter and saving some poor plain-vanilla mutt with a whole bucket-load of love and affection to give, makes me quite upset.
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Re: Dogs: Why? Why not?

Postby jimlews » 11 Oct 2020, 12:15pm

Cyril Haearn wrote:There is nothing to beat a Welsh Collie
Cymru am byth!


A stout birch rod - available in any Welsh hedgerow.

Sometime ago, I attended the sheepdog trials at Builth Wells.

I really don't know why they bother. They are all guilty!

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Re: Dogs: Why? Why not?

Postby Carlton green » 11 Oct 2020, 1:59pm

simonineaston wrote:
Worse are those who pay extortionate amounts for mongrels aka “designer breeds”
I don't mind people paying daft amounts of money to get a dog - a fool & their money are soon parted... Lord knows I've paid over the odds for the odd item, now & then. But what 'does my 'ead in' to borrow from another thread, is a) the unscrupulous behaviour that follows on from the sniff of easy money, where dogs are mistreated frightfully to mass-produce vanity breed puppies, and b) the deliberate breeding of physical deformaties that make the dog's entire life difficult and stressful. I'm not talking about working breeds like collies or spaniels and I won't cite particular examples, as it's not my intention to be rude or disrespectful to this forum's readers, however this website will give a flavour of why I'm so cross about distorting the bodies of man's best friend, just for sake of vanity or whim.
The number of perfectly excellent unwanted dogs that end up in rescue homes ( and ultimately disposed of...) is truly upsetting. Why on earth people shell out shed-loads of dosh to buy the dog-of-the-moment (usually inspired by nothing more sensible than the favourite telly series!), instead of going down the shelter and saving some poor plain-vanilla mutt with a whole bucket-load of love and affection to give, makes me quite upset.


Well said that Man!

I found the link very helpful and it confirmed some suspicions to me, basically when a Dog is breed for the show ring rather than the breeds historic work the end result will be alteration to suit the assorted whims of buyers and breeders. I’ve long believed that the Kennel Clubs of various countries have a lot to answer for when it comes to selective breed alteration.

Getting a Dog from a Rescue Centre is, I think, a responsible thing to do but only when when the circumstances are right for both Adopter and Dog. It is not a route that is without hazard and you really do need to be able to evaluate both the Dog as fully as is possible and your ability to manage it well. Each Rescue Dog is there for a reason and possibly multiple reasons, some reasons won’t prove to be important to the Adopter but other reasons might well be significant.