Jdsk wrote:Yes, that might be right for the prevalence in that population at that time. But it will be different in a population with a different prevalence.
We are taking about different measures. The figured given relate to, give it 10 samples all with virus and e.g. 4 will get a "clear" answer. That has nothing to do with prevalence in population due to the way the results are expressed. The BMJ article stated "detect just 48.89% of covid-19 infections in asymptomatic people" - which means that those being considered have the virus. Further down the article it is explained again "But lateral flow tests missed 23 of the 45 PCR positive participants, giving a sensitivity of 48.89% (33.70% to 64.23%).". i.e. the data in this case are only considering people/samples that have virus so considerations about have/don't have and +ve/-ve result are different measures.
Which really raises the question as to why they failed to act for 11 months and are now only acting when Johnson's maintains they "will be less effective".
Yes his brain is probably missing.He seems to get more wrong than right. If the opposition had put forward a half decent candidate for leadership we would not be stuck with Boris
bikerider wrote:Yes his brain is probably missing.He seems to get more wrong than right. If the opposition had put forward a half decent candidate for leadership we would not be stuck with Boris
John
Very true. I blame Labour as much a Conservatives. Without the "anybody but Corbyn" vote I suspect we'd have got either a hung Parliament or at least not an incompetent compulsive liar.
bikerider wrote:Yes his brain is probably missing.He seems to get more wrong than right. If the opposition had put forward a half decent candidate for leadership we would not be stuck with Boris
John
Very true. I blame Labour as much a Conservatives. Without the "anybody but Corbyn" vote I suspect we'd have got either a hung Parliament or at least not an incompetent compulsive liar.
Ian
I don't think Corbyn in himself was ever the problem, the issue was very obviously that the press had it in for him. Corbyn's problem was he wouldn't lie and he didn't aim punches at the other guys.
We knew BoJo was a liar and one that couldn't even be bothered turning up for interviews. Who we voted for says more about us than them.
The prime minister complained the cost of the refurbishment – carried out by his fiancée Carrie Symonds – was “totally out of control” and running to “tens and tens of thousands”, it was reported.
The charity scheme would be based on one used by the White House to raise millions of dollars for interior design, antiques and art, the Daily Mail said.
A multi-millionaire financier and Tory peer Lord Brownlow has been approached to run the charity, it said, with an application to register it with the Charity Commission underway.
The idea could provoke claims of a conflict of interest if it is seen as a backdoor way of providing a financial benefit to Mr Johnson. ...
Should the charitable mechanism really be used to offset to excessive spending by the PM's partner?
Anyone remember the "terrible mess" Labour left after the financial crash of 2008? And how Mr Osborne was going to pay it all off in a single Parliament by his austerity measures?
Now we learn these things take many generations. Who'd have thought!
Oldjohnw wrote:Anyone remember the "terrible mess" Labour left after the financial crash of 2008? And how Mr Osborne was going to pay it all off in a single Parliament by his austerity measures?
Now we learn these things take many generations. Who'd have thought!
Isn't there a Standing Order that someone has to mention the magic money tree at this point?
"3 days after the High Court ruled Government had acted unlawfully by failing to publish Covid contracts, Boris Johnson stood up in the House of Commons and reassured MPs and the public that all Covid-related contracts were “on the record”. However, the final Order handed down by the Judge today shows that what the Prime Minister told the House was not true." https://goodlawproject.org/update/johns ... arliament/
.. contains links to the final Order and judgment.
Jdsk wrote:"3 days after the High Court ruled Government had acted unlawfully by failing to publish Covid contracts, Boris Johnson stood up in the House of Commons and reassured MPs and the public that all Covid-related contracts were “on the record”. However, the final Order handed down by the Judge today shows that what the Prime Minister told the House was not true." https://goodlawproject.org/update/johns ... arliament/
.. contains links to the final Order and judgment.
Jonathan
What? Johnson telling lies? Why does Parliament expect any different - he lies to everybody all the time so why do they assume he will suddenly always tell them the truth?
However, the final Order handed down by the Judge today shows that what the Prime Minister told the House was not true.
You know, this occurs to me.
Back in 1963, when a certain Government Minister made a statement to the house which was later shown to be not true, the resulting brouhaha eventually brought down the entire Government....
Suppose that this room is a lift. The support breaks and down we go with ever-increasing velocity. Let us pass the time by performing physical experiments... --- Arthur Eddington (creator of the Eddington Number).
And he has the nerve to spend £2.5m on a new presidential style press room which, he claims, will facilitate accountability whilst ignoring the basics of accountability ie tell the truth.
http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2021/03/06/carrie-symonds-decorates-no-10-toilet-with-unpublished-government-contracts/ wrote:Carrie Symonds decorates No. 10 toilet with unpublished government contracts World famous interior designer Carrie Symonds has wowed fashion experts by using unpublished NHS contracts to wallpaper a toilet at Number 10, Downing Street. Symonds, who is an expert in anything that takes her fancy, surprised interior decorators with her choice of material as Boris Johnson spaffs up the walls on a regular basis. However, Miss Symonds is confident any mess can be quickly wiped away or hidden by Matt Hancock. ...