Repeated Bullying By Your Boss

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Re: Repeated Bullying By Your Boss

Postby thirdcrank » 21 Nov 2020, 10:30am

This is just party politicians behaving like party politicians. In more normal times, she'd be in the HoC surrounded by a "doughnut" of supporters, all carrying on like children in a playground. Meanwhile, less openly, they are all vying for position with daggers ready.

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Re: Repeated Bullying By Your Boss

Postby Jdsk » 21 Nov 2020, 10:38am

I agree that a major part of the reason that the Executive get away with it is because they can survive votes in the HoC.

And that these are abnormal times.

Gove is interestingly quiet. And Hunt is presenting himself as the safe pair of hands. But Sunak is still 9/4.

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Re: Repeated Bullying By Your Boss

Postby simonineaston » 21 Nov 2020, 10:39am

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Re: Repeated Bullying By Your Boss

Postby Jdsk » 21 Nov 2020, 10:52am

Excellent piece by Haddon at the IfG:
"The handling of the Priti Patel bullying inquiry has fatally undermined the Ministerial Code"
https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/blog/priti-patel-bullying-inquiry-undermined-ministerial-code

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Re: Repeated Bullying By Your Boss

Postby francovendee » 21 Nov 2020, 11:45am

For me what is most telling is that she is very popular within the party.
Says it all about the Tories at the moment.

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Re: Repeated Bullying By Your Boss

Postby al_yrpal » 21 Nov 2020, 2:10pm

Sergeant Majors take note and be very afraid of the ninnys charter :lol:

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Re: Repeated Bullying By Your Boss

Postby Oldjohnw » 21 Nov 2020, 2:25pm

al_yrpal wrote:Sergeant Majors take note and be very afraid of the ninnys charter :lol:

Al


Can you explain what this means?
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Re: Repeated Bullying By Your Boss

Postby Jdsk » 21 Nov 2020, 11:02pm

Letter to The Times:
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Re: Repeated Bullying By Your Boss

Postby Pebble » 22 Nov 2020, 12:33am

I wonder if there would have been the same reaction had the politician been a middle aged white male with an Etonian accent trying to get things done. I'm thinking these heads of the civil service could have been a lot more robust than they are appearing to be. My sympathies lie with pretty on this one.

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Re: Repeated Bullying By Your Boss

Postby Oldjohnw » 22 Nov 2020, 2:53am

Pebble wrote:I wonder if there would have been the same reaction had the politician been a middle aged white male with an Etonian accent trying to get things done. I'm thinking these heads of the civil service could have been a lot more robust than they are appearing to be. My sympathies lie with pretty on this one.


Worth noting

The staff who were bullied were at various levels;
This is her third bullying offence and the department has already had to pay out money. Not all complaints were from the civil service.
Johnson suppressed this report for 7 months;
Johnson kept some witnesses away and wouldn't let them speak to the investigation;
She has had two other ministerial code breaches against her.

The MPs defending Patel need to get their story straight. They say that the civil servants are snowflakes and weak and start to cry a bit of robust language. And at the same time say these same weak and pathetic civil servants actually bullied Patel.
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Re: Repeated Bullying By Your Boss

Postby al_yrpal » 22 Nov 2020, 8:51am

Its all coming out now. The guy heading the Witch Hunt for 8 months never even spoke to Priti...doh! And the ninnys didnt like working weekends? Obviously 2 sides to this debacle.

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Re: Repeated Bullying By Your Boss

Postby Paulatic » 22 Nov 2020, 9:18am

Oldjohnw wrote:
al_yrpal wrote:Sergeant Majors take note and be very afraid of the ninnys charter :lol:

Al


Can you explain what this means?

As Al's failed to clarify let me interpret it for you.
In Al’s world some people are better than others, let’s call them sergeant majors. Also in Al’s world some people are weak and foolish, let’s call them ninnies. SM trump ninnies so therefore treating other people without consideration and respect is totally acceptable.
Only my opinion of course but don’t be like Al as most of us will recall at school the bullies were usually outed as the weak and feeble ones.
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Re: Repeated Bullying By Your Boss

Postby Bonefishblues » 22 Nov 2020, 9:18am

al_yrpal wrote:Its all coming out now. The guy heading the Witch Hunt for 8 months never even spoke to Priti...doh! And the ninnys didnt like working weekends? Obviously 2 sides to this debacle.

Al

What have you read that casts doubt on the outcome of the Enquiry please?

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Re: Repeated Bullying By Your Boss

Postby NATURAL ANKLING » 22 Nov 2020, 11:05am

Hi,
We've all seen it all before from school days all way through to old age.
Horrible ugly self-centred people being promoted and favoured.
How do you get sacked several times but still managed to come up smelling of Roses.

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Re: Repeated Bullying By Your Boss

Postby thirdcrank » 22 Nov 2020, 11:12am

IMO, this impatience/ dissatisfaction with the Civil Service is a result having a cabinet system of government but running as a presidential system.