Who's had the vaccine?

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Re: Who's had the vaccine?

Postby Elizabeth_S » 22 Dec 2020, 12:51pm

my sister, covid ICU, I should add that she is in her 60s so this is a great relief for all of us

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Re: Who's had the vaccine?

Postby Syd » 23 Dec 2020, 9:12am

So now 24 hours on from having the vaccine.

Only one, extremely minor, side effect is a mild tenderness around the area of the injection. To be expected.

Mrs Syd had her vaccine yesterday too and is also fine.

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Re: Who's had the vaccine?

Postby pwa » 23 Dec 2020, 11:52am

Syd wrote:So now 24 hours on from having the vaccine.

Only one, extremely minor, side effect is a mild tenderness around the area of the injection. To be expected.

Mrs Syd had her vaccine yesterday too and is also fine.

Blair (remember him?) is saying a single dose gives 90% immunity and that we should be giving that single dose to as many vulnerable and care / health sector people as possible before thinking about second doses. That does make some sense.

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Re: Who's had the vaccine?

Postby Psamathe » 23 Dec 2020, 12:03pm

pwa wrote:
Syd wrote:So now 24 hours on from having the vaccine.

Only one, extremely minor, side effect is a mild tenderness around the area of the injection. To be expected.

Mrs Syd had her vaccine yesterday too and is also fine.

Blair (remember him?) is saying a single dose gives 90% immunity and that we should be giving that single dose to as many vulnerable and care / health sector people as possible before thinking about second doses. That does make some sense.

It must also depend on how quickly immunity fades following a single and 2 doses. Some vaccines, 1st dose (or sometimes 1st two doses) might give you "protection" for a year (or a period) but a subsequent vaccination provides much much longer cover. So a lot will depend on how long the 1st dose alone remains effective.

Plus complexities with vaccine availability e.g. can you give the 1st dose of Pfizer and 2nd of Oxford/Zeneca as Pfizer might not be available for some time after current batch so what is the outcome from mixing vaccines 1st and 2nd dose - and I suspect nobody knows.

So to change an established tested protocol days after approving it and with such limited research on the potential impacts would seem ... daft?

I had never realised Blair was also an expert on vaccine (as well as war-mongering).

Ian

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Re: Who's had the vaccine?

Postby rjb » 23 Dec 2020, 12:09pm

Syd wrote:So now 24 hours on from having the vaccine.

Only one, extremely minor, side effect is a mild tenderness around the area of the injection. To be expected.

Mrs Syd had her vaccine yesterday too and is also fine.


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Re: Who's had the vaccine?

Postby horizon » 23 Dec 2020, 12:12pm

Psamathe wrote:I had never realised Blair was also an expert on vaccine (as well as war-mongering).

Ian


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Re: Who's had the vaccine?

Postby ossie » 23 Dec 2020, 12:17pm

I'd love to hear from Witty or Van Tam about this one jab proposal. If it offers the 91% as suggested over the 95% for two it sounds like a complete no brainer even if longer term immunity is compromised. We can always play catch up when the virus is under control.

There are various arguments going around elsewhere, unfortunately the fact it came from Blair is overriding and clouding any useful debate.

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Re: Who's had the vaccine?

Postby Syd » 23 Dec 2020, 12:39pm

rjb wrote:
Syd wrote:So now 24 hours on from having the vaccine.

Only one, extremely minor, side effect is a mild tenderness around the area of the injection. To be expected.

Mrs Syd had her vaccine yesterday too and is also fine.


Image

How did you look before you had the jab. :shock:

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Re: Who's had the vaccine?

Postby Syd » 23 Dec 2020, 12:42pm

Psamathe wrote:
pwa wrote:
Syd wrote:So now 24 hours on from having the vaccine.

Only one, extremely minor, side effect is a mild tenderness around the area of the injection. To be expected.

Mrs Syd had her vaccine yesterday too and is also fine.

Blair (remember him?) is saying a single dose gives 90% immunity and that we should be giving that single dose to as many vulnerable and care / health sector people as possible before thinking about second doses. That does make some sense.

It must also depend on how quickly immunity fades following a single and 2 doses. Some vaccines, 1st dose (or sometimes 1st two doses) might give you "protection" for a year (or a period) but a subsequent vaccination provides much much longer cover. So a lot will depend on how long the 1st dose alone remains effective.

Plus complexities with vaccine availability e.g. can you give the 1st dose of Pfizer and 2nd of Oxford/Zeneca as Pfizer might not be available for some time after current batch so what is the outcome from mixing vaccines 1st and 2nd dose - and I suspect nobody knows.

So to change an established tested protocol days after approving it and with such limited research on the potential impacts would seem ... daft?

I had never realised Blair was also an expert on vaccine (as well as war-mongering).

Ian

All the vaccine centres I know of are saving half of each lot of vaccine to allow the case one to be used for the second jab.

Giving a second jab from a different brand would almost certainly go against guidance and be a breach of the medical regulations.

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Re: Who's had the vaccine?

Postby thirdcrank » 23 Dec 2020, 12:54pm

I wonder if Blair is positioning himself to be the leader of some sort of government of national unity if a combination of things like a national shortage of lavatory paper means there's a big clean-up job to be done. I think he must really see himself as an elder statesman awaiting the inevitable recall.

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Re: Who's had the vaccine?

Postby Cyril Haearn » 23 Dec 2020, 12:58pm

GNU with Bliar, Plus One?
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Nobody knows how long immunity might last after a first or second injection, I submit
Is there supposed to be some immunity after the first, when one takes the two-part vaccine, or is it a bit like those two-part adhesives?
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Re: Who's had the vaccine?

Postby Cowsham » 23 Dec 2020, 1:32pm

pwa wrote:
Syd wrote:So now 24 hours on from having the vaccine.

Only one, extremely minor, side effect is a mild tenderness around the area of the injection. To be expected.

Mrs Syd had her vaccine yesterday too and is also fine.

Blair (remember him?) is saying a single dose gives 90% immunity and that we should be giving that single dose to as many vulnerable and care / health sector people as possible before thinking about second doses. That does make some sense.


Just been on the news there now -- 1St dose gives about 50% immunity ??

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Re: Who's had the vaccine?

Postby 661-Pete » 24 Dec 2020, 9:23pm

Being in the 70-75 group, Mrs P and I will be getting our shots some time in February, I understand. We're happy to wait: in Tier 4 lockdown it makes little difference anyway.

I just had a call from the chairman of the bridge club I used to go to pre-Covid (when will we ever be able to play face-to-face again? :| ). He tells me that all the over-80s in the club (of which there are a fair number) have had their first shots, and all are doing well. So that's good news.

Meanwhile, we're a little bit concerned about our next-door neighbour, who hasn't been offered the jab. She'll be turning 105 next week. She's in good health and jolly sprightly for her age - my wife had a chat (at social distance) the other day - although fed up with being virtually housebound. I wonder if, for people of that age, the jab is considered too risky? If anyone can explain, I'd appreciate it.
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Re: Who's had the vaccine?

Postby Jdsk » 24 Dec 2020, 9:26pm

Of course there may be reasons why she shouldn't have it as an individual, but I'm not aware of any bar based on high age.

But the programme is still patchy by area.

I recommend checking with her GP.

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Re: Who's had the vaccine?

Postby rmurphy195 » 24 Dec 2020, 11:21pm

thirdcrank wrote:I wonder if Blair is positioning himself to be the leader of some sort of government of national unity if a combination of things like a national shortage of lavatory paper means there's a big clean-up job to be done. I think he must really see himself as an elder statesman awaiting the inevitable recall.


If his 91% claim is along the same lines as his "Education for All" promise then I don't think he'll get my vote.
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