Tangled Metal wrote:He must be dodgy if he's being defended by Johnson!!!!
I have to say that does weigh heavily, doesn't it...
Tangled Metal wrote:He must be dodgy if he's being defended by Johnson!!!!
Oldjohnw wrote:Hamilton is not a tax cheat because he is not breaking tax laws. But I don believe he should receive an honour because he doesn't contribute to British society via his taxes.
pete75 wrote:Oldjohnw wrote:Hamilton is not a tax cheat because he is not breaking tax laws. But I don believe he should receive an honour because he doesn't contribute to British society via his taxes.
Other than being an out and out lie* your second sentence means no one on a very low income should ever receive any sort of honour either.
* HM Revenue and Customs' 2019 figures put Hamilton "within the top 5,000 highest UK income tax payers".https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/mot ... 80786.html
Oldjohnw wrote:pete75 wrote:Oldjohnw wrote:Hamilton is not a tax cheat because he is not breaking tax laws. But I don believe he should receive an honour because he doesn't contribute to British society via his taxes.
Other than being an out and out lie* your second sentence means no one on a very low income should ever receive any sort of honour either.
* HM Revenue and Customs' 2019 figures put Hamilton "within the top 5,000 highest UK income tax payers".https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/mot ... 80786.html
It doesn't mean that at all. I was referring to someone wealthy choosing not to pay taxes then receiving honours. And I don't tell out and out lies. You have provided some evidence which contradicts what I wrote which I accept . I may have made an error but I never told a lie. I am not a liar and you have no business suggesting otherwise.
Cyril Haearn wrote:Experts assert that everyone lies, I think that is true, for example being polite and grateful to an impolite shop person or a police officer
Quite possibly the infamous 'sportsperson' pays more €$ in tax where he 'dwells' than any of us, but less %. One could use statistics to lie, or at least mislead, about that
pete75 wrote:Cyril Haearn wrote:Experts assert that everyone lies, I think that is true, for example being polite and grateful to an impolite shop person or a police officer
Quite possibly the infamous 'sportsperson' pays more €$ in tax where he 'dwells' than any of us, but less %. One could use statistics to lie, or at least mislead, about that
He lives in Monaco. There isn't any income tax there nor much in the way of other taxes. The casinos are owned by the state and that's where they get most of the income to run the place.
Cyril Haearn wrote:I understand The Palace has people vetted before they are honoured, one wonders if that leads to some honours not being issued
Jdsk wrote:Cyril Haearn wrote:I understand The Palace has people vetted before they are honoured, one wonders if that leads to some honours not being issued
There's a committee for reviewing nominations for national honours... the "Honours Committee":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honours_Committee
and one for the unelected second chamber... the "House of Lords Appointments Commission":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Lords_Appointments_Commission
Are you suggesting that there is a step beyond those that is undertaken by "the Palace"?
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The farcical nature of the whole thing is illustrated by the recent case of Cruddas. The Commission recommended against ennoblement and the Prime Minister simply went ahead:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55414981
Jonathan
pete75 wrote: ... Yep and Thatcher pushed through Savile's knighthood despite the committee recommending against it.
thirdcrank wrote:pete75 wrote: ... Yep and Thatcher pushed through Savile's knighthood despite the committee recommending against it.
I see from wiki that it's reported that his knighthood was rejected three times before going through on the fourth. I wonder on what grounds he was repeatedly rejected. Since his crimes were revealed, I've been surprised to get the impression that I was the only person in the country who didn't know what he was up to all along.
thirdcrank wrote:pete75 wrote: ... Yep and Thatcher pushed through Savile's knighthood despite the committee recommending against it.
I see from wiki that it's reported that his knighthood was rejected three times before going through on the fourth. I wonder on what grounds he was repeatedly rejected. Since his crimes were revealed, I've been surprised to get the impression that I was the only person in the country who didn't know what he was up to all along.
Bonefishblues wrote:thirdcrank wrote:pete75 wrote: ... Yep and Thatcher pushed through Savile's knighthood despite the committee recommending against it.
I see from wiki that it's reported that his knighthood was rejected three times before going through on the fourth. I wonder on what grounds he was repeatedly rejected. Since his crimes were revealed, I've been surprised to get the impression that I was the only person in the country who didn't know what he was up to all along.
There were two of us - I'm on record as calling him an English Eccentric of the old school (or some such) when his death was announced.