New Year Honours Dec 2020

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Re: New Year Honours Dec 2020

Postby Cyril Haearn » 2 Jan 2021, 5:17pm

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Re: New Year Honours Dec 2020

Postby PH » 2 Jan 2021, 5:24pm

Bonefishblues wrote:I'm interested in what one has to do to deserve the title 'tax cheat'.

He's also a cheat at motor sport, keeps turning up with a faster car.

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Re: New Year Honours Dec 2020

Postby pete75 » 2 Jan 2021, 5:54pm

Bonefishblues wrote:
pete75 wrote:
Bonefishblues wrote:I'm interested in what one has to do to deserve the title 'tax cheat'.


In Lewis Hamilton's case being the sort of person elderly right wingers dislike i.e. young, not white and with more money than them.

Don't forget the tattoos and the fashion.


Yep. Don't recall them criticising Roger Moore's knighthood even though the "tax cheat" had been living in Monaco since the early eighties.

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Re: New Year Honours Dec 2020

Postby bikepacker » 2 Jan 2021, 6:30pm

Yes I did.
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Re: New Year Honours Dec 2020

Postby bikepacker » 2 Jan 2021, 6:33pm

pete75 wrote:
You haven't explained why private individuals shouldn't be "tax cheats" when senior members of the government are themselves "tax cheats"? Surely the latter are the most deserving of criticism.


I don't need to explain anything because I make no distinction between them. All are deserving of criticism.
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Re: New Year Honours Dec 2020

Postby Bonefishblues » 2 Jan 2021, 7:14pm

bikepacker wrote:
pete75 wrote:
You haven't explained why private individuals shouldn't be "tax cheats" when senior members of the government are themselves "tax cheats"? Surely the latter are the most deserving of criticism.


I don't need to explain anything because I make no distinction between them. All are deserving of criticism.

Are ISAs cheating? Pensions? I am interested in the distinctions you make between ways to reduce tax paid.

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Re: New Year Honours Dec 2020

Postby pete75 » 2 Jan 2021, 8:02pm

bikepacker wrote:Yes I did.

Evidence please.

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Re: New Year Honours Dec 2020

Postby bikepacker » 2 Jan 2021, 8:05pm

Ask my MP.
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Re: New Year Honours Dec 2020

Postby pete75 » 2 Jan 2021, 8:06pm

Bonefishblues wrote:
bikepacker wrote:
pete75 wrote:
You haven't explained why private individuals shouldn't be "tax cheats" when senior members of the government are themselves "tax cheats"? Surely the latter are the most deserving of criticism.


I don't need to explain anything because I make no distinction between them. All are deserving of criticism.

Are ISAs cheating? Pensions? I am interested in the distinctions you make between ways to reduce tax paid.


My wife is one of Bikepacker's "tax cheats". She actually puts all her office expenses, tax salaries, premises and equipment costs against her tax bill. Everyone running a business does the same though I'm sure holier than though Backpacker wouldn't have done had he ever the gumption to run a business.

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Re: New Year Honours Dec 2020

Postby pete75 » 2 Jan 2021, 8:07pm

bikepacker wrote:Ask my MP.

And who might that be?

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Re: New Year Honours Dec 2020

Postby Bonefishblues » 2 Jan 2021, 8:11pm

pete75 wrote:
Bonefishblues wrote:
bikepacker wrote:
I don't need to explain anything because I make no distinction between them. All are deserving of criticism.

Are ISAs cheating? Pensions? I am interested in the distinctions you make between ways to reduce tax paid.


My wife is one of Bikepacker's "tax cheats". She actually puts all her office expenses, tax salaries, premises and equipment costs against her tax bill. Everyone running a business does the same though I'm sure holier than though Backpacker wouldn't have done had he ever the gumption to run a business.

As a Contractor I pay myself via a Limited Company, via a mix of dividends & salary, so I am interested to see my own Cheat Quotient.

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Re: New Year Honours Dec 2020

Postby Oldjohnw » 3 Jan 2021, 12:09am

Hamilton is not a tax cheat because he is not breaking tax laws. But I don believe he should receive an honour because he doesn't contribute to British society via his taxes.
John

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Re: New Year Honours Dec 2020

Postby colin54 » 3 Jan 2021, 12:29am

An BBC article here about Hamilton's tax affairs and knighthood, fair play to him, he's at the pinnacle of a worldwide sport. Something to be celebrated in my opinion.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/54965544
Quote from the article :- HM Revenues and Customs 2019 figures put him ''within the top 5000 highest UK income tax payers''.

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Re: New Year Honours Dec 2020

Postby Ride-sleep-repeat » 3 Jan 2021, 12:55am

I read earlier this week that Hamiltons Tax affairs were 'misunderstood' and that Johnson personally intervened to get him nominated after pressure from within.
Everything in our system is corrupt.
Scrap the honours list completely for me.

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Re: New Year Honours Dec 2020

Postby Tangled Metal » 3 Jan 2021, 8:19am

He must be dodgy if he's being defended by Johnson!!!! :lol: