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Re: New Year Honours Dec 2020

Posted: 2 Jan 2021, 5:17pm
by Cyril Haearn
I am an elderly left-winger, I just detest 'motor sport'

Re: New Year Honours Dec 2020

Posted: 2 Jan 2021, 5:24pm
by PH
Bonefishblues wrote:I'm interested in what one has to do to deserve the title 'tax cheat'.

He's also a cheat at motor sport, keeps turning up with a faster car.

Re: New Year Honours Dec 2020

Posted: 2 Jan 2021, 5:54pm
by pete75
Bonefishblues wrote:
pete75 wrote:
Bonefishblues wrote:I'm interested in what one has to do to deserve the title 'tax cheat'.


In Lewis Hamilton's case being the sort of person elderly right wingers dislike i.e. young, not white and with more money than them.

Don't forget the tattoos and the fashion.


Yep. Don't recall them criticising Roger Moore's knighthood even though the "tax cheat" had been living in Monaco since the early eighties.

Re: New Year Honours Dec 2020

Posted: 2 Jan 2021, 6:30pm
by bikepacker
Yes I did.

Re: New Year Honours Dec 2020

Posted: 2 Jan 2021, 6:33pm
by bikepacker
pete75 wrote:
You haven't explained why private individuals shouldn't be "tax cheats" when senior members of the government are themselves "tax cheats"? Surely the latter are the most deserving of criticism.


I don't need to explain anything because I make no distinction between them. All are deserving of criticism.

Re: New Year Honours Dec 2020

Posted: 2 Jan 2021, 7:14pm
by Bonefishblues
bikepacker wrote:
pete75 wrote:
You haven't explained why private individuals shouldn't be "tax cheats" when senior members of the government are themselves "tax cheats"? Surely the latter are the most deserving of criticism.


I don't need to explain anything because I make no distinction between them. All are deserving of criticism.

Are ISAs cheating? Pensions? I am interested in the distinctions you make between ways to reduce tax paid.

Re: New Year Honours Dec 2020

Posted: 2 Jan 2021, 8:02pm
by pete75
bikepacker wrote:Yes I did.

Evidence please.

Re: New Year Honours Dec 2020

Posted: 2 Jan 2021, 8:05pm
by bikepacker
Ask my MP.

Re: New Year Honours Dec 2020

Posted: 2 Jan 2021, 8:06pm
by pete75
Bonefishblues wrote:
bikepacker wrote:
pete75 wrote:
You haven't explained why private individuals shouldn't be "tax cheats" when senior members of the government are themselves "tax cheats"? Surely the latter are the most deserving of criticism.


I don't need to explain anything because I make no distinction between them. All are deserving of criticism.

Are ISAs cheating? Pensions? I am interested in the distinctions you make between ways to reduce tax paid.


My wife is one of Bikepacker's "tax cheats". She actually puts all her office expenses, tax salaries, premises and equipment costs against her tax bill. Everyone running a business does the same though I'm sure holier than though Backpacker wouldn't have done had he ever the gumption to run a business.

Re: New Year Honours Dec 2020

Posted: 2 Jan 2021, 8:07pm
by pete75
bikepacker wrote:Ask my MP.

And who might that be?

Re: New Year Honours Dec 2020

Posted: 2 Jan 2021, 8:11pm
by Bonefishblues
pete75 wrote:
Bonefishblues wrote:
bikepacker wrote:
I don't need to explain anything because I make no distinction between them. All are deserving of criticism.

Are ISAs cheating? Pensions? I am interested in the distinctions you make between ways to reduce tax paid.


My wife is one of Bikepacker's "tax cheats". She actually puts all her office expenses, tax salaries, premises and equipment costs against her tax bill. Everyone running a business does the same though I'm sure holier than though Backpacker wouldn't have done had he ever the gumption to run a business.

As a Contractor I pay myself via a Limited Company, via a mix of dividends & salary, so I am interested to see my own Cheat Quotient.

Re: New Year Honours Dec 2020

Posted: 3 Jan 2021, 12:09am
by Oldjohnw
Hamilton is not a tax cheat because he is not breaking tax laws. But I don believe he should receive an honour because he doesn't contribute to British society via his taxes.

Re: New Year Honours Dec 2020

Posted: 3 Jan 2021, 12:29am
by colin54
An BBC article here about Hamilton's tax affairs and knighthood, fair play to him, he's at the pinnacle of a worldwide sport. Something to be celebrated in my opinion.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/54965544
Quote from the article :- HM Revenues and Customs 2019 figures put him ''within the top 5000 highest UK income tax payers''.

Re: New Year Honours Dec 2020

Posted: 3 Jan 2021, 12:55am
by Ride-sleep-repeat
I read earlier this week that Hamiltons Tax affairs were 'misunderstood' and that Johnson personally intervened to get him nominated after pressure from within.
Everything in our system is corrupt.
Scrap the honours list completely for me.

Re: New Year Honours Dec 2020

Posted: 3 Jan 2021, 8:19am
by Tangled Metal
He must be dodgy if he's being defended by Johnson!!!! :lol: