Will America unite?

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Re: Will America unite?

Postby Jdsk » 20 Jan 2021, 10:49pm

Stevek76 wrote:
Jdsk wrote:Amazing what youth and education can achieve.

Awfully familiar set of demographic indicators on voting intention there...

ISWYDT. ; - )

But what's the big difference in predictors between pro-Trump and pro-Leave?

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Re: Will America unite?

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Re: Will America unite?

Postby KTHSullivan » 21 Jan 2021, 8:19pm



He certainly appears to have hit the ground running.
Just remember, when you’re over the hill, you begin to pick up speed. :lol:

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Re: Will America unite?

Postby Mick F » 22 Jan 2021, 10:02am

reohn2 wrote:In answer to the thread title.
No.
Exactly.

There are three Americas.
North, Central, and South.
Each section has multiple sovereign countries within them.
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Re: Will America unite?

Postby Tangled Metal » 22 Jan 2021, 10:17am

Ash! That old chestnut. Do you not understand when people use a simple America for the United states of America? If the meanings understood then there's no reason for pedantry. Besides USA is afaik the only country in north, south or central America that has used america in its name, the only one that's often abbreviated to just America and the only one people think of when you use just America.

If you want to be pedantic then you should use full names for countries. If you stop using UK and eu plus all the other abbreviations, initialisations and shortening of names then I will.

PS does anyone know what the unabridged version of UK is? Aiui there's reference to GB and northern Ireland in there. Hell of a job discussing Brexit if we had to type that out on our mobile phones

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Re: Will America unite?

Postby reohn2 » 22 Jan 2021, 10:54am

Mick F wrote:
reohn2 wrote:In answer to the thread title.
No.
Exactly.

There are three Americas.
North, Central, and South.
Each section has multiple sovereign countries within them.

Yer being contrary again aren't you :wink:
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Re: Will America unite?

Postby kwackers » 22 Jan 2021, 10:56am

reohn2 wrote:
Mick F wrote:
reohn2 wrote:In answer to the thread title.
No.
Exactly.

There are three Americas.
North, Central, and South.
Each section has multiple sovereign countries within them.

Yer being contrary again aren't you :wink:

Pedantic is his middle name.

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Re: Will America unite?

Postby Mick F » 22 Jan 2021, 1:53pm

reohn2 wrote:
Mick F wrote:
reohn2 wrote:In answer to the thread title.
No.
Exactly.

There are three Americas.
North, Central, and South.
Each section has multiple sovereign countries within them.

Yer being contrary again aren't you :wink:
Oh yes indeedy! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Will America unite?

Postby Vorpal » 22 Jan 2021, 1:57pm

I usually write "US Americans" because the people of many other countries, especially in Central and South America also consider themselves Americans, and may resent the term being applied to mean only US Americans. Mexico is also a United States, Estados Unidos Mexicanos, so abbreviating just to US is also potentially problematic or confusing.
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Re: Will America unite?

Postby Jdsk » 22 Jan 2021, 2:04pm

Tangled Metal wrote:Ash! That old chestnut. Do you not understand when people use a simple America for the United states of America? If the meanings understood then there's no reason for pedantry. Besides USA is afaik the only country in north, south or central America that has used america in its name, the only one that's often abbreviated to just America and the only one people think of when you use just America.

I'm fortunate to have a large Chilean contingent in my family. That last phrase might describe what you think of, but it doesn't apply to me, them or a few million others.

Vorpal wrote:I usually write "US Americans" because the people of many other countries, especially in Central and South America also consider themselves Americans, and may resent the term being applied to mean only US Americans.

Exactly.

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Re: Will America unite?

Postby Mick F » 22 Jan 2021, 2:05pm

Nicely put Vorpal.
US Americans.

I'm well aware that the USA-ans call themselves Americans, and so does the rest of the world perhaps.
It doesn't make it right though.

We have an issue here in UK.
We aren't UK-ans, we're British or English/Scottish/Northern Irish/Welsh-ish.

....... but the USA-ans call themselves American.

America is named after Amerigo Vespucci who went to South America (present day Brazil?) if my memory serves me correctly from history and geography at school.
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Re: Will America unite?

Postby Jdsk » 22 Jan 2021, 2:08pm

Mick F wrote:... Amerigo Vespucci who went to South America (present day Brazil?) if my memory serves me correctly from history and geography at school.

It isn't really clear, but probably several different areas:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerigo_Vespucci#Voyages_and_alleged_voyages

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Re: Will America unite?

Postby Tangled Metal » 22 Jan 2021, 3:42pm

Mick F wrote:Nicely put Vorpal.
US Americans.

I'm well aware that the USA-ans call themselves Americans, and so does the rest of the world perhaps.
It doesn't make it right though.

We have an issue here in UK.
We aren't UK-ans, we're British or English/Scottish/Northern Irish/Welsh-ish.

....... but the USA-ans call themselves American.


America is named after Amerigo Vespucci who went to South America (present day Brazil?) if my memory serves me correctly from history and geography at school.

I'm sure there's many from that part of Americas think of themselves as part of another nation. You have to the settler US Americans but anyone know how many nations there are in USA? I'll give you a clue, it's a lot more than in the UK.

574 federally recognized native American nations. The significant number actually comes from Alaska. They're more culturally diverse than the UK is even before you get onto the settler part of USA.

https://www.ncai.org/about-tribes