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mikeymo wrote: 10 Apr 2021, 4:49pm
Ben@Forest wrote: 10 Apr 2021, 4:45pm...it's faintly amusing people's viewing habits are so important that they can't cope with 6 or 7 hours without the BBC...
Because then they'd have nothing to complain about? Bleating about Auntie Beeb is almost an addiction for some people.
As is using mistakes to make complaints seem more unreasonable than they were. The BBC was down for 12 hours not only 6 or 7. If that hadn't been self-inflicted, that would have been a major incident!

Still, I didn't complain to them. I watched a film we recorded a while ago. The Constant Gardener. A good film but not the escapism I was hoping for, with a story involving testing rapidly-developed epidemic drugs!
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mikeymo wrote: 10 Apr 2021, 5:01pm
Pebble wrote: 10 Apr 2021, 12:21pmBut Jeez - the coverage on the radio and TV is way way over the top.
Are the off buttons broken on your television and wireless?
Heavens forbid people wanting a choice of programmes on the radio!
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mikeymo wrote: 10 Apr 2021, 5:00pm
Bonefishblues wrote: 10 Apr 2021, 4:52pm
mikeymo wrote: 10 Apr 2021, 4:49pm

Because then they'd have nothing to complain about? Bleating about Auntie Beeb is almost an addiction for some people.
This isn't
It's not meant to be a "cogent argument", Socrates.

It's meant to make a simple point, that people love whinging about the media, especially the BBC.

Especially here in these forae.
As was mine :wink:
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Has anyone added up how much TV-Tax one pays over a lifetime?
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As for us being mostly left-whingers, perhaps there are quite a few right-whingers, but they are too smart to bother trying to argue about politricks on a cycling forums :wink:
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Cyril Haearn wrote: 10 Apr 2021, 5:38pmHas anyone added up how much TV-Tax one pays over a lifetime?
There isn't a single answer as the licence fee is paid per household not per capita, people don't live for the same duration, a few people only have monochrome licences, some don't pay it etc.

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My television set has an off button. I use it when the programmes being shown don't interest me.
Sensible fellow... television is chewing-gum for the mind. Me, I've thoroughly enjoyed R3's output over the last 30 hours or so - slightly more sombre than usual for obvious reasons. And have learned things about the DoE wot I never did know, too. Sounds like rather a good bloke. Wonder how long his missus will hang on.
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mikeymo wrote: 10 Apr 2021, 5:01pm
Pebble wrote: 10 Apr 2021, 12:21pmBut Jeez - the coverage on the radio and TV is way way over the top.
Are the off buttons broken on your television and wireless?
No, and nor was my ability to use them
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Pebble wrote: 10 Apr 2021, 6:04pm
mikeymo wrote: 10 Apr 2021, 5:01pm
Pebble wrote: 10 Apr 2021, 12:21pmBut Jeez - the coverage on the radio and TV is way way over the top.
Are the off buttons broken on your television and wireless?
No, and nor was my ability to use them
I had a quick look at the schedule and avoided it.

I see they are now moving all football fixtures at 3pm next Saturday so they don't clash with the funeral.
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mikeymo wrote: 10 Apr 2021, 5:01pm
Pebble wrote: 10 Apr 2021, 12:21pmBut Jeez - the coverage on the radio and TV is way way over the top.
Are the off buttons broken on your television and wireless?
I'd say that was rather a binary choice. :lol:
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Public service broadcasting that input caters to the small section of the general public who actually care enough to want to watch repetitive commentary on the DoE. Not serving those who don't. Binary choice is no choice. Perhaps the binary choice is to watch 24 hour obituary on BBC 4 or normal shows on other BBC channels not watch obituary or watch nothing.
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Tangled Metal wrote: 11 Apr 2021, 1:50pmBinary choice is no choice.
I don't know how that statement could be any more wrong.

The choice between having a television turned on or off is a perfect example of a binary choice.

That you don't like what the television is receiving when it's on is neither here nor there. On or off is a binary choice. That is the meaning of the words.
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I only wanted to watch the weather forecast
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Pebble wrote: 11 Apr 2021, 2:47pm I only wanted to watch the weather forecast
It's going to overflow, I heard.

PS. Blimey, that was quick.
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mikeymo wrote: 11 Apr 2021, 1:57pm
Tangled Metal wrote: 11 Apr 2021, 1:50pmBinary choice is no choice.
I don't know how that statement could be any more wrong.

The choice between having a television turned on or off is a perfect example of a binary choice.

That you don't like what the television is receiving when it's on is neither here nor there. On or off is a binary choice. That is the meaning of the words.
The choice to watch TV has already been made the programme choice is another thing. If the channels are all DoE then that is no choice. The point is you had no idea of the situation when you turned TV on to watch it, binary choice on or off, but once on you usually have a lot of choice but not the case when it's wall to wall obituary. What's is so wrong with the idea that is no real choice?
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Tangled Metal wrote: 11 Apr 2021, 5:35pm
mikeymo wrote: 11 Apr 2021, 1:57pm
Tangled Metal wrote: 11 Apr 2021, 1:50pmBinary choice is no choice.
I don't know how that statement could be any more wrong.

The choice between having a television turned on or off is a perfect example of a binary choice.

That you don't like what the television is receiving when it's on is neither here nor there. On or off is a binary choice. That is the meaning of the words.
The choice to watch TV has already been made the programme choice is another thing. If the channels are all DoE then that is no choice. The point is you had no idea of the situation when you turned TV on to watch it, binary choice on or off, but once on you usually have a lot of choice but not the case when it's wall to wall obituary. What's is so wrong with the idea that is no real choice?
The choice to turn the television off, or to leave it on, is a choice. A binary choice in fact, as Francovendee pointed out. You might not like what is on the television when you turn it on. But you have a choice, off or on. And it is a "real choice".

What is "so wrong with the idea that is no real choice" is that that statement, that it is "no real choice", is an incorrect statement.
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