Re: "They aren't really allegations they're well known facts!". My phone gives me the option to disable and mask tracking by phone manufacturer. Any sources to prove that disable, blocking and masking don't work?Ride-sleep-repeat wrote: ↑14 May 2021, 11:07amI have no idea and TBH don't really think about it or care.They aren't really allegations they're well known facts!Psamathe wrote: ↑14 May 2021, 10:38amAssuming your allegations are correct (though I've disabled things like Apple tracking), do the US Government or phone manufacturers sell or leak your personal details and details of your contacts to 3rd parties and hackers?Ride-sleep-repeat wrote: ↑14 May 2021, 10:32am
Well for a start the phone manufacturer,network provider,whoever owns the satellites(US Govt?).It's the same with built in Satnavs in vehicles.Whether you're using it or not it's tracking where the vehicle is/has been.
Doesn't bother me in the slightest.
Collecting data costs money so companies have to be able to see a return on those costs and where there is not the return they wont bother - they are interested in profit not knowing details about you and incurring the costs that entails.
Ian
All text messages for instance are stored and have been for years.
As for the costs are there any?Once a program is set up,on your phone network for example,the computer does the rest.
These things are beyond the average person but easy enough for Tech giants etc.
We've had conversations at work/home then gone on Facebook etc and there's a product on your feed that you've talked about.It's everywhere.If you have a Smartphone you are not alone :wink:
Wasn't there a scandal a few years ago about Samsung Smart TVs watching households through the built in camera?
I'm writing this on my laptop.For all I know someone could be watching me through it's webcam!?
Didn't they catch Gary Glitter because he had stuff on his PC that he had 'deleted' but it was stored deep in the HD?
It's been going on for years the only way to be sure you are really 'anonymous' is to have no electronic devices whatsover.
Re: Costs: Significant costs: Communications - data is not free. Storage - tracking everybody generates a lot of data that requires data centres which cost, plus software plus management, etc.
Re: Garry Glitter: Stuff stored and later recovered by Police on your local hard disk drive is very different from being tracked by all and sundry.
Re: the only way to be sure you are really 'anonymous' is to have no electronic devices whatsover - actually there are other ways e.g. burner devices or SIM cards not registered to you. Some countries take steps to avoid t but others it's not too difficult. So they might be tracking the phone you have and what is being done on that phone but they are not able to attribute that information to you.
But it comes down to a question of degree and choice. You chose the level you are happy at. Personally I'm not happy about my personal details being sold to unknown 3rd parties for their profitable activities or passed to hackers (which is unlikely to be in my interest) - so I avoid my details being passed to them through the likes of Zukkenbery. I do use the internet but much of what I do is under false IDs or traceable e-mails (so if they do end up in the wrong hands I know who to take it up with and can immediately close it down).
If you are worried about somebody watching you typing through your webcam then maybe take a bit more trouble about security on your laptop. Or ask yourself why would somebody bother spending their time watching you - what do they get out of the effort & time?
Ian