Oldjohnw wrote: ↑6 Oct 2021, 10:10am
Newcastle is Nyu-cass-el. Always was. With the emphasis on the second syllable. Anything else is a different place.
Yes, you've put it better than I did.
It's why I split Newcastle into New Castle.
mjr wrote: ↑5 Oct 2021, 2:36pm
Some of my relatives are from it and I think it's occasionally used and widely understood by its residents, although most associated with people from the Devizes/Trowbridge centre of the county than Swindonians or Wiltonians/Salisburgers (OK, I guessed the last one). There's the flattering explanation as given in Wikipedia and also an unflattering one without the smuggling reason. I believe it's also not welcomed by Robins fans because it used to be a nickname for some other now-smaller team.
I'd rate it as similar to "Yellowbellies", "Tractor Boys", "Tykes" and so on. It's widely-used but a bit slangy so not suitable for formal writing.
Thanks for going some way to answering my query. The inclusion of names associated with football supporters is interesting. eg I always took tyke = Yorkshireman yet somebody on here (glueman?) pointed out that Tykes also = supporters of Barnsley FC.
Old boys and rugby union types can be more posh eg (Old) Leodensians. "Loiners" are lower in the social scale although I only ever hear it as "Leeds loiner" perhaps because they assume it won't be understood otherwise
Oldjohnw wrote: ↑6 Oct 2021, 10:10am
Newcastle is Nyu-cass-el. Always was. With the emphasis on the second syllable. Anything else is a different place.
Yes, you've put it better than I did.
It's why I split Newcastle into New Castle.
Easy since I grew up there. Born in Northumberland, childhood in Northumberland, teens and early 20s Newcastle (apart from studying in Glasgow) then Northumberland up to 72.
Mick F wrote: ↑6 Oct 2021, 10:20am
Another one .......
Bristol is either Brissle or Bristow depending on which part of that fair city you come from.
My late brother-in-law was Bristol chap.
It can also sound like "Brist-ohl" when said by someone with that Bristolian accent that makes many words gain an extra L on the end and completely confused me when someone asked for "a stroll ... a drinking stroll" (straw) when I worked in a cafe.
MJR, mostly pedalling 3-speed roadsters. KL+West Norfolk BUG incl social easy rides http://www.klwnbug.co.uk All the above is CC-By-SA and no other implied copyright license to Cycle magazine.
Oldjohnw wrote: ↑6 Oct 2021, 10:10am
Newcastle is Nyu-cass-el. Always was. With the emphasis on the second syllable. Anything else is a different place.
Yes, you've put it better than I did.
It's why I split Newcastle into New Castle.
Splitting it doesn't do the required task of showing a long or short a. People who use a short a in "new castle" are likely to use a short a in "Newcastle".
We are moving a bit off topic - isn't that what happens in a conversation - but I knew a man from near Darlington who used to add an 'H' when there wasn't one and drop an 'H' when there was. I never knew how he wrote these words.
Oldjohnw wrote: ↑6 Oct 2021, 11:34am
We are moving a bit off topic - isn't that what happens in a conversation - but I knew a man from near Darlington who used to add an 'H' when there wasn't one and drop an 'H' when there was.
Oldjohnw wrote: ↑6 Oct 2021, 10:10am
Newcastle is Nyu-cass-el. Always was. With the emphasis on the second syllable. Anything else is a different place.
Yes, you've put it better than I did.
It's why I split Newcastle into New Castle.
Splitting it doesn't do the required task of showing a long or short a. People who use a short a in "new castle" are likely to use a short a in "Newcastle".
Nyu-cass-el does.
Jonathan
I am so happy. I eventually got something right today.
al_yrpal wrote: ↑5 Oct 2021, 11:21pm
My Moonraker is in its original 1980 colours. The last owners of our new house moved in in 1982. This is reflected in a lot of brown -woodwork, t and g ceilings, skirtings and various bits of woodwork. Its all getting painted white.
Al
Please, please don't change the colour of the camper. It's of it's time.
For certain that mix of colours will again be popular.
I had Raclet frame tent in those colours and loved it.
TENT! TENT!
Our livingroom was that colour in the '70's
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