We Are Eating Less Meat ...

[Oldjohnw]

Processed meat eh?
I am a healthy, active, strong, fit, outgoing, sociable, cyclist, non-overweight, never-smoking, rapidly approaching 70 year old chap.

I enjoy my food and my lifestyle. Full stop.
Bacon?
Who gives a damn?

I believed you have high cholesterol. A good reason to look at your diet.

[Psamathe]

Only a stool sample - bah humbug, you want a proper full depth colonoscopy for real screening.

Closest I've come was after a bad pothole (cycling) and immediately started peeing blood. Dr fitted me in at 9:00 next morning and "gave me the finger"!

Ian

[Jdsk]

Only a stool sample - bah humbug, you want a proper full depth colonoscopy for real screening.

It's better to reserve the term screening to something that can be done to populations rather than to individuals.

So colonoscopy is often the best way to investigate individuals but immunochemical analysis of faeces (FIT) is the best way to screen populations. And the UK has recently dropped flexible sigmoidoscopy from the first stage of screening.

Jonathan

[Mick F]

Processed meat eh?
I am a healthy, active, strong, fit, outgoing, sociable, cyclist, non-overweight, never-smoking, rapidly approaching 70 year old chap.

I enjoy my food and my lifestyle. Full stop.
Bacon?
Who gives a damn?

I believed you have high cholesterol. A good reason to look at your diet.

Well remembered.

My high cholesterol is familial, and not dietary.
Had a blood-test check only a week or three ago and all was fine.

Take injections every two weeks on a Friday. Next one is on Friday this week.
Statins are the Devil's work.
Read my thread all about it.

For the record, when I went for a test yonks ago, my level was 11.4.
Now down to 5 or 6.

[Oldjohnw]

Statins have managed my high cholesterol for 20 years. Nothing diabolical there!

But 11 is high. Mine has recently risen to 6.4 (it was 9 prior to statins) as my diet has been a bit less focused around our house move and we’ve had some processed food and even a couple of takeaways. Also exercise has slipped.

My blood sugar is almost in the pre-diabetes level (41). A few years ago I was pre-diabetic but managed to rescue things. Again, a few more cakes and biscuits around the house move. And stress.

[Mick F]

Hi John, and good evening.
I have a long thread on the subject on the Health section.

Précis about it:
Took "rugby balls" of statins - 80mg - for ten years.
I developed headaches and then severe headaches, plus aches and pains and stiff joints.
I put it down to being "old", but the headaches became so bad, only Cocodamol would work and I had to go to bed and sleep. Honestly, it was terrible.

One day, I read the leaflet in the stains packet (Atorvastatin) and saw I was suffering from almost all the side effects.
I was on Atorvastatin because the doc had tried me on other ones and Atorvastatin was the best for me ............ but ten years later it was awful in the extreme. Stopped taking them.

Saw the doc, and told him I wasn't going to take them again, and asked him what he was going to do about it.
I was referred to the specialists and he found my circulation and health and heart were all tip-top but my cholesterol level was too high.
I asked him what he was going to do about it as there was no way on God's Earth that I would take statins again.
He prescribed .............
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolocumab
The rest is history, and this Friday I will be injecting my 134th ............... that's 25 per year, so it's 5 years or more.
No regrets whatsoever.

[Oldjohnw]

Hi John, and good evening.
I have a long thread on the subject on the Health section.

Précis about it:
Took "rugby balls" of statins - 80mg - for ten years.
I developed headaches and then severe headaches, plus aches and pains and stiff joints.
I put it down to being "old", but the headaches became so bad, only Cocodamol would work and I had to go to bed and sleep. Honestly, it was terrible.

One day, I read the leaflet in the stains packet (Atorvastatin) and saw I was suffering from almost all the side effects.
I was on Atorvastatin because the doc had tried me on other ones and Atorvastatin was the best for me ............ but ten years later it was awful in the extreme. Stopped taking them.

Saw the doc, and told him I wasn't going to take them again, and asked him what he was going to do about it.
I was referred to the specialists and he found my circulation and health and heart were all tip-top but my cholesterol level was too high.
I asked him what he was going to do about it as there was no way on God's Earth that I would take statins again.
He prescribed .............
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolocumab
The rest is history, and this Friday I will be injecting my 134th ............... that's 25 per year, so it's 5 years or more.
No regrets whatsoever.

Thanks Mick. Thankfully I have had no side effects whatsoever with simvastatin. And my levels have been well controlled. I get checked every year.

[Mick F]

No bacon this morning.
I had poached eggs on buttered toast.
Bacon tomorrow maybe.

We're having Steak and Ale pie for tea today, with gravy made from home-made chicken stock, and spuds, carrots and swede, cauliflower and broccoli.

[LollyKat]

I am a healthy, active, strong, fit, outgoing, sociable, cyclist, non-overweight, never-smoking, rapidly approaching 70 year old chap.

Sociable = pub? Recommended alcohol limits are 14 units a week, equivalent to 6 pints average strength beer .... just saying!

( figure from safercornwall.co.uk)

[Mick F]

Sociable in the pub, and out of it too.
When I go to pubs, I'll have a couple of pints and then leave. Rarely have more than two.

We have a thread about greeting other cyclists ........ and walkers, and people we meet.

[PDQ Mobile]

It would seem that earlier peoples had quite surprisingly sophisticated palettes!
In some places at least.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/202 ... -years-ago

[francovendee]

As a child our meals always featured meat of some kind. Plain cooking, usually with potatoes and some other vegetables. Meat would be grilled and veg boiled. Fish on Friday.
Sunday was always roast dinner.
I still like the taste of meat but eat a very small amount, preferring the the flavour and texture of vegetables.
Looking back I know today I wouldn't enjoy what I ate as a boy. It's strange as I've always thought of mum as a good cook.
Maybe all our tastes change with time.
There are some constants, porridge is one, loved it a boy and still have it everyday. I must have eaten a couple of tons of it.
I think Mickf is also a fan.

[Mick F]

Porridge?
Have as much of it as you want, and you can have all the porridge I haven't eaten!
Can't stand the stuff.

[PDQ Mobile]

Porridge?
Have as much of it as you want, and you can have all the porridge I haven't eaten!
Can't stand the stuff.

I read Oats can be effective at maintaniing a good Chlorestrol level.
Muesli is good.

[Psamathe]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Porridge?
Have as much of it as you want, and you can have all the porridge I haven't eaten!
Can't stand the stuff.

I read Oats can be effective at maintaniing a good Chlorestrol level.
Muesli is good.

I have porridge every morning for breakfast. On tour I tend to carry a bag of muesli as "emergency food. In the UK as I rarely buy muesli it is (or at least used to be) difficult as so much is packed full or added refined sugar. If France they have bags of great muesli without added sugar.

I'm sure if I was eating/buying a lot of muesli then I'd find a "no added sugar" version and stick with it or make my own (but I prefer porridge).

Ian