Sir David Amess MP. RIP

[Oldjohnw]

I know very little of the late Sir David, tragically slaughtered whilst quietly doing his work of representing his constituents. I had heard of him but I guess the fact I knew so little of him tells its own story: he just got on with the job.

In 38 years he had never sought high office and saw his role as representing his entire constituency. He was a devout Roman Catholic but the entire community, Christian of every shade, and Muslim, are broken hearted at his demise.

He also demonstrates some important concepts:

1. You can be on the right of the party but not have dictator tendencies;
2. You can reach across the political divide in friendship and goodwill;
3. Not all MPs are on the take, as some suggest. They are not all “at it”.

Requiescat in Pace.

[francovendee]

I didn't share some of his views but that aside he sounds like the sort of MP we'd all like to represent us.
The killing of Jo Cox and now David Ames are awful events and hope I this will be the last.

[Ben@Forest]

I know very little of the late Sir David, tragically slaughtered whilst quietly doing his work of representing his constituents. I had heard of him but I guess the fact I knew so little of him tells its own story: he just got on with the job.

In 38 years he had never sought high office and saw his role as representing his entire constituency. He was a devout Roman Catholic but the entire community, Christian of every shade, and Muslim, are broken hearted at his demise.

He also demonstrates some important concepts:

1. You can be on the right of the party but not have dictator tendencies;
2. You can reach across the political divide in friendship and goodwill;
3. Not all MPs are on the take, as some suggest. They are not all “at it”.

Requiescat in Pace.

I would suggest the vast majority of MPs are not 'at it'. The parliamentary response to his death has maybe opened some people's eyes to the way that parliamentarians of different parties work together and that, in particular, the House of Commons is not just Prime Minister's Questions. It would be great if people recognised that.

And yes, a great loss. My sympathies to his family.

[Hellhound]

RIP.
Both extremely sad and very worrying.

[reohn2]

No one deserves to die like that,his murder is a disgusting obscenity of an elected representative of government.
One can only imagine what his poor family are now going through.

Sir David Amess' murder and that of Jo Cox go to show what mad and twisted people are prepared to do in the name of whatever their cause may be.


Let us also not forget what other obscenities religious madmen have carried out in recent years.

[Oldjohnw]

Just worth noting: Jo Cox’s murder was a political not religious madman.

[661-Pete]

Party politics and political differences must be set aside at a time like this. Some folk (not on this forum thankfully) may have wished to score points even at this sad time. Not I.

Sir David's opinions, and mine, differed in just about every respect - except for his opposition to foxhunting. Nevertheless, I recognise the superlative value of his contribution to the nation, and the loss we have all sustained. R.I.P.

[reohn2]

Just worth noting: Jo Cox’s murder was a political not religious madman.

I've read my post again and it doesn't infer Jo Cox was murdered by a religious madman.

[Oldjohnw]

Just worth noting: Jo Cox’s murder was a political not religious madman.

I've read my post again and it doesn't infer Jo Cox was murdered by a religious madman.

Sorry, my reading (use of ‘other’’ but clearly I was mistaken.

[pwa]

Amess was a decent bloke who took his responsibilities as an MP seriously, and we need more like him. I shared some of his views, but not all of them. Much the same as with Jo Cox really. Both were trying to represent their constituents and both were trying to make their country a better place. These murders are an attack on civilised life, on the ability of decent folk to discuss matters without attacking each other. I suspect that if Jo Cox and David Amess had ever sat down in the same room to discuss a point on which they disagreed they would have done so with mutual respect and a measure of goodwill. That is how it should be. That is what we have to stand up for and defend.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-58951337

[Debs]

In a democratic society it's paramount to vote right wing politicians out of office. Murdering them is totally abhorrent.
It will be interesting to learn who exactly this murderer is and his warped reasoning...

However we now have a situation which involves the outpouring of sympathy over the criminal death of a very rightwing Brexit-Tory politician who apart from the only one good bone in his body on animal rights, stood for ERG Brexit extremes, supported the return of the death penalty, was a staunch homophobe with his past HoC voting record always voting against GBLT rights, also voted to enshrine sexist Roman Catholic medieval dogma into UK law with banning of abortion rights.

It is very tragic that he was killed while carrying out his democratic duties, and i really do have sympathetic to his family and friends, but i wish the media would stop the puke-bucket non-stop sending him up as Saint David the perfect on the big white horse.

Mr Nice-Guy he was not.

[fullfathom5]

In a democratic society it's paramount to vote right wing politicians out of office. Murdering them is totally abhorrent.
It will be interesting to learn who exactly this murderer is and his warped reasoning...

However we now have a situation which involves the outpouring of sympathy over the criminal death of a very rightwing Brexit-Tory politician who apart from the only one good bone in his body on animal rights, stood for ERG Brexit extremes, supported the return of the death penalty, was a staunch homophobe with his past HoC voting record always voting against GBLT rights, also voted to enshrine sexist Roman Catholic medieval dogma into UK law with banning of abortion rights.

It is very tragic that he was killed while carrying out his democratic duties, and i really do have sympathetic to his family and friends, but i wish the media would stop the puke-bucket non-stop sending him up as Saint David the perfect on the big white horse.

Mr Nice-Guy he was not.

Have you ever considered that somebody can have different views to your own without being 'bad'?

[Oldjohnw]

I wonder who thinks Amess was saintly or perfect?

He was a man who appeared to do his best for his constituents regardless of whether or not they voted for him. I’m not sure what more you could hope for.

[fullfathom5]

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Please point out to me where I have said that David Amess was a 'perfect saintly Mr nice guy'?

Personally, I'm a remain voting atheist who is pro-abortion and disagreed with a lot of views. The only point I'm making is that people can have opinions that differ from your own without being 'bad' (and it was you who said David Amess only had 'one good bone in his body').

Finally, do you think that perhaps posting on a forum thread entitled 'Sir David Amess MP. RIP' and then stating he only 'one good bone in his body' and comparing his views to a medieval witch finder could perhaps be viewed as being rather offensive?

[reohn2]

Fulfathom5
Well said sir!