UK's Smallest Most Southerly City
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UK's Smallest Most Southerly City
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Re: UK's Smallest Most Southerly City
That Riddler cider must have gone to their heads!!
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City?
Define "city".
Usually has a cathedral, and is a town created as a city by charter.
Needs a city council and a mayor as well as (maybe) a Lord Mayor.
UK's most southerly city is Truro.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-59571276
Define "city".
Usually has a cathedral, and is a town created as a city by charter.
Needs a city council and a mayor as well as (maybe) a Lord Mayor.
UK's most southerly city is Truro.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-59571276
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When we had a Department of Constitutional Affairs they said:
"City status is a rare mark of distinction granted by the Sovereign and conferred by Letters Patent. It is granted by personal Command of The Queen, on the advice of Her Ministers. It is for Her Majesty The Queen to decide when a competition for city status should be held. Competitions are usually held on occasions such as important Royal anniversaries."
There are probably several different "definitions" in practice.
Jonathan
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A city has a royal charter saying so if I recall correctly... nothing to do with cathedrals, councils or mayors.Mick F wrote: ↑8 Dec 2021, 1:41pm City?
Define "city".
Usually has a cathedral, and is a town created as a city by charter.
Needs a city council and a mayor as well as (maybe) a Lord Mayor.
UK's most southerly city is Truro.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-59571276
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/what-makes-a-city/
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Well, not far from us lies the village of Cuckfield*, which may not be a city but it is an Independent State. At least, according to its inhabitants. See here. It's a bit larger than Marazion at around 3500 inhabitants - but not that big.
*The first syllable is pronounced 'cook'.
*The first syllable is pronounced 'cook'.
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Well my vote would be for Port Stanley. They have the cathedral already so part way there, and you can't get much further South.
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Re: UK's Smallest Most Southerly City
Unless there are several (equally) most southerly UK cities, then the description "UK's smallest most southerly city" makes no sense.
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I see what you mean.DaveReading wrote: ↑8 Dec 2021, 9:04pm Unless there are several (equally) most southerly UK cities, then the description "UK's smallest most southerly city" makes no sense.
The BBC News article had "smallest and most southerly city in the UK".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-59571276
There's an interesting style used in American English headlines of "UK's Smallest, Most Southerly City", meaning that it's both.
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Maybe they'll declare St.Michaels mount a cathedral and charge an extra 2 quid to rip the tourists off?
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From that article, I quote:
The chair of the Marazion Chamber of Commerce, Paul Elliott, said "Achieving city status would further raise the profile of Marazion, stimulate local businesses and prosper the community in the immediate locality and beyond."
Classic public relations speak with no supportable evidence included. Has he a plan to find somewhere to put another car park to serve the extra visitors? I can assure you that there simply isn’t anywhere. Perhaps being honest and saying “Getting onside would do my ego and income prospects the world of good” doesn’t quite fit the role.
The chair of the Marazion Chamber of Commerce, Paul Elliott, said "Achieving city status would further raise the profile of Marazion, stimulate local businesses and prosper the community in the immediate locality and beyond."
Classic public relations speak with no supportable evidence included. Has he a plan to find somewhere to put another car park to serve the extra visitors? I can assure you that there simply isn’t anywhere. Perhaps being honest and saying “Getting onside would do my ego and income prospects the world of good” doesn’t quite fit the role.
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Re: UK's Smallest Most Southerly City
Is that a loose translation from Kernewek?... prosper the community ....
(It's intransitive in English, I think.)
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Yes, much more commonly used as intransitive nowadays, but plenty of historical examples as transitive... Wiktionary gives Cranmer, Marlowe and Dryden. I'll see if the OED has anything on frequency.thirdcrank wrote: ↑8 Dec 2021, 10:16pmIs that a loose translation from Kernewek?... prosper the community ....
(It's intransitive in English, I think.)
Jonathan
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OED: "Now rare".Jdsk wrote: ↑8 Dec 2021, 10:28pmYes, much more commonly used as intransitive nowadays, but plenty of historical examples as transitive... Wiktionary gives Cranmer, Marlowe and Dryden. I'll see if the OED has anything on frequency.thirdcrank wrote: ↑8 Dec 2021, 10:16pmIs that a loose translation from Kernewek?... prosper the community ....
(It's intransitive in English, I think.)
Jonathan
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I remember the phrase "Prosper the Bonaventure" (referring to a smugglers' ship) in the children's swashbuckling novel Moonfleet*, which I read as a teen. I must have thought that usage rather archaic, but then it fits the 18th-century setting of the story.Jdsk wrote: ↑9 Dec 2021, 8:56amOED: "Now rare".Jdsk wrote: ↑8 Dec 2021, 10:28pmYes, much more commonly used as intransitive nowadays, but plenty of historical examples as transitive... Wiktionary gives Cranmer, Marlowe and Dryden. I'll see if the OED has anything on frequency.thirdcrank wrote: ↑8 Dec 2021, 10:16pm
Is that a loose translation from Kernewek?
(It's intransitive in English, I think.)
Jonathan
*Not to be confused with The Moonstone, an entirely different book - though both stories revolve around a stolen diamond...
Suppose that this room is a lift. The support breaks and down we go with ever-increasing velocity.
Let us pass the time by performing physical experiments...
--- Arthur Eddington (creator of the Eddington Number).
Let us pass the time by performing physical experiments...
--- Arthur Eddington (creator of the Eddington Number).