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Re: togglechaintour bikes

Postby hubgearfreak » 8 May 2011, 9:10pm

GrahamNR17 wrote:Would you get them wheels in a normal person sized frame?


we both have done. 8)

stumpies may struggle though :P

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Re: togglechaintour bikes

Postby GrahamNR17 » 8 May 2011, 9:13pm

hubgearfreak wrote:
GrahamNR17 wrote:Would you get them wheels in a normal person sized frame?


we both have done. 8)

stumpies may struggle though :P

Funny man :evil:

Anyway, I have Emily here now, and she is 24" frame with 28" wheels, and I fit on it :shock: And pretty soon she'll be joined by Sydney, who is the same size and who I might also fit 8)

Graham, wots 'opin, really 'opin :roll:

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Re: togglechaintour bikes

Postby Greybeard » 8 May 2011, 9:34pm

hubgearfreak wrote:you're chuffed then GB? even if it's a bit of a girlie colour? :wink:

did the build present you with any bothers? 8)


Well chuffed, Tim. I can even live with the colour for now. Thanks for educating me in the pleasures of 9-speed hubs/big wheels :wink:
Building it was rather uneventful and straightforward. The only issue was the minor damage to the cable adjuster of the hub by the courier, but you've already seen the pretty, machined brass remedy - which is also an improvement of the original design. The wheels built up like a dream and the chain line was spot on at the first assembly.
Now, pass me something difficult to do :roll:

Graham - the Peace 9r frame by GT came in S, M and L sizes as far as I know (this one's an L) so you may well be able to find a smaller sized one if you really fancy joining the WW sub-group :shock:

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Re: togglechaintour bikes

Postby GrahamNR17 » 10 May 2011, 8:06am

Just stripped a frame to bear metal. It's smothered in rust pitting. What's the recommended paint that will make the best job of minimising the visible pitting? Anything thick and gloopy?

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Re: togglechaintour bikes

Postby Edwards » 10 May 2011, 8:36am

Build up primer /undercoat ideally car stuff from a paint suppliers (Jawel) in many layers and rub down between coats. Also purchase a hardener that can be used with primer and top coat so that the paint does not chip.
Failing that is is amazing just how much powder coating can cover up.
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Re: togglechaintour bikes

Postby GrahamNR17 » 10 May 2011, 1:23pm

Cool, so 90 percent time then :| I'll get cracking...

In the meantime, is there an easy way to straighten a handlebar stem? It's from the 20s lady's Raleigh Popular, with stem/bars combined. The stem is bent slightly causing the bars to be slightly lower on one side :cry:

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Re: togglechaintour bikes

Postby steve browne » 10 May 2011, 9:26pm

Several years ago a friend in the Bristol CTC was straightening some handlebars using the slots in a roadside drain cover. When questioned what he was up to by passing schoolboys he claimed to have dropped his bike down the drain and that he was attempting to pull it out. You may care to give this method a try Graham!

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Re: togglechaintour bikes

Postby MikewsMITH2 » 10 May 2011, 11:49pm

Just stripped a frame to bear metal. It's smothered in rust pitting. What's the recommended paint that will make the best job of minimising the visible pitting? Anything thick and gloopy?


Its complicated unless you want the rust to come through again. What I did with one of the seat stays on your Hosteller was to treat the pitting several times with an acid preparation that converts the rust. Its called "milkstone remover" and is available cheap from agricultural suppliers. Or you can buy a weaker version at a hundred times the price called "Jenolite" which car restorers use. After several treatments the rust will be killed. Then you need a primer. The best one readily available is "Finegans Number 1 Rust Treatment" you can get it from Halfords. Its a nice dark pink so should suit Emily. Then grey primer, plastic filler, rubbing down - whatever it takes. to get it nice and smooth.

The powder coat or spray paint won't cover it up. It is very visible on the chain stay of my roadster after a media blast and professional paint job.

or you can leave it as "patina"

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Re: togglechaintour bikes

Postby MikewsMITH2 » 10 May 2011, 11:51pm

Oh and there is hammerite smooth which sprays on to bare rusty metal and does what it says on the tin. Available in black. :)
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Re: togglechaintour bikes

Postby MikewsMITH2 » 11 May 2011, 12:03am

Building it was rather uneventful and straightforward

How did you sort the brakes out Steve?
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Re: togglechaintour bikes

Postby GrahamNR17 » 11 May 2011, 7:14am

MikewsMITH2 wrote:Oh and there is hammerite smooth which sprays on to bare rusty metal and does what it says on the tin. Available in black. :)

That stuff is S**t. The most dreadful paint I've ever used.

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Re: togglechaintour bikes

Postby GrahamNR17 » 11 May 2011, 7:18am

MikewsMITH2 wrote:
Just stripped a frame to bear metal. It's smothered in rust pitting. What's the recommended paint that will make the best job of minimising the visible pitting? Anything thick and gloopy?


Its complicated unless you want the rust to come through again. What I did with one of the seat stays on your Hosteller was to treat the pitting several times with an acid preparation that converts the rust. Its called "milkstone remover" and is available cheap from agricultural suppliers. Or you can buy a weaker version at a hundred times the price called "Jenolite" which car restorers use. After several treatments the rust will be killed. Then you need a primer. The best one readily available is "Finegans Number 1 Rust Treatment" you can get it from Halfords. Its a nice dark pink so should suit Emily. Then grey primer, plastic filler, rubbing down - whatever it takes. to get it nice and smooth.

The powder coat or spray paint won't cover it up. It is very visible on the chain stay of my roadster after a media blast and professional paint job.

or you can leave it as "patina"

Mike wot used to restore rusty old cars :)

I have a tin of the Finegans. It's goes on very thick and fills in imperfections nicely, as I remember. I imagine it's why I bought it all those years ago. Will pop in the farm supplies today for the milkstone remover, thanks for the tip on that one 8)

Just finished some test pieces (old mudguards) and I'm really liking the finish of Japlac very much.

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Re: togglechaintour bikes

Postby GrahamNR17 » 11 May 2011, 7:44am

steve browne wrote:Several years ago a friend in the Bristol CTC was straightening some handlebars using the slots in a roadside drain cover. When questioned what he was up to by passing schoolboys he claimed to have dropped his bike down the drain and that he was attempting to pull it out. You may care to give this method a try Graham!

The more I think about it, the more I know I have to try it :D

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Re: togglechaintour bikes

Postby GavinC » 11 May 2011, 1:00pm

So looking on eBay, it would appear that the F-frame Moulton is no longer the discerning TCTers choice. I was considering bringing mine in June, but I wouldn't want to appear passé 8)

As I'll only be along as day tripper on the Saturday, what time are procedings due to commence and end? I'm thinking I might let the train take the strain if possible.

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Re: togglechaintour bikes

Postby corshamjim » 11 May 2011, 1:12pm

I won't be bringing a Moulton, but I will be bringing two 16" wheels.
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