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[GavinC]

... apart from the wheelbuilding guy, who for some reasaon irritated the hell out of me!

He was just American, that's all Awwwesoooome

You may have hit the nail on the head

[MikewsMITH2]

I was amazed when he started checking the tensions with a meter and said that the Italians checked the tension by plucking the spokes "and you'll never get it accurate like that ". I could programme a robot to do what he does. Give me the Italian guy who does it by pitch and feel any day! I want wheels with soul!

[GrahamNR17]

Give me the Italian guy who does it by pitch and feel any day! I want wheels with soul!

I agree to an extent, but I like my wheels round, so give me the scientist any day

[GrahamNR17]

Anyone into pipe fittings and pressure gauges?

My trusty old foot pump, wot's been my foot pump since god was a boy, threw a wobbly and the gauge went haywire. I unscrewed it and the fitting measured about 1/4", so I duly bought a new gauge with 1/4" BSP fitting. Of course, this being an English thread, it was about half inch across! So I re-ordered one with 1/8" BSP fitting, and it's still too big

Did some fiddling and have concluded that I'm 99 percent certain it's the same thread as a Schrader valve. Needless to say there's not a google result in the world that lists pressure gauges with that thread

So, can anyone help? Shed light? Tell me what the frigs going on?

Graham, wot don't know wots wot

[MikewsMITH2]

I like my wheels round, so give me the scientist any day

A tensometer won't help you get round wheels its supposed to give you eaqual tensions on all spokes to give you a stronger wheel.
Mike wot 'asn't broken a spoke since 1979 and is also famous for last words

[MikewsMITH2]

Graham, if its BSP then it would be:

Nominal Size 1/16
(inches) T P I Pitch 28 0.0357
(inches) Major Diameter 0.304
(inches) Minor Diameter 0.2583
(inches) Tapping Drill Size Letter drill G(6.6 mm)

However if it is a schrader valve size then its (according to Wikpedia)
Imperial: 0.305 in OD, thread root diameter 0.271 in x 32 tpi (threads per inch)
Metric: 7.7 mm OD, thread root diameter is 6.9 mm x 0.794 mm pitch.

I just measured one and it's exactly the imperial measurment above according to my late fathers micrometer and thread gauges. This does not appear to be a standard british thread. Note the TPI difference btween BSP and Schrader but the same OD within a thou' I would order the 1/6 BSP

Mike wot's plagued by TPIs

[hubgearfreak]

the Italian guy who does it by pitch and feel any day! I want wheels with soul!

you're quite right mike. the yank in question was too cocky by half for my liking AND full of BS

[GrahamNR17]

The VERY best wheel I ever had built, with tensiometer-checked spokes, is still going. From day one no two spokes played the same note (and still don't). Gimme the yank's precision any time. And that's final

[GrahamNR17]

Graham, if its BSP then it would be:

Nominal Size 1/16
(inches) T P I Pitch 28 0.0357
(inches) Major Diameter 0.304
(inches) Minor Diameter 0.2583
(inches) Tapping Drill Size Letter drill G(6.6 mm)

However if it is a schrader valve size then its (according to Wikpedia)
Imperial: 0.305 in OD, thread root diameter 0.271 in x 32 tpi (threads per inch)
Metric: 7.7 mm OD, thread root diameter is 6.9 mm x 0.794 mm pitch.

I just measured one and it's exactly the imperial measurment above according to my late fathers micrometer and thread gauges. This does not appear to be a standard british thread. Note the TPI difference btween BSP and Schrader but the same OD within a thou' I would order the 1/6 BSP

Mike wot's plagued by TPIs

If I wasn't confused before, then I certainly am now


Left: 1/8" pipe thread - Centre: whatever mine is - Right: 1/4" pipe thread


Graham - wot reckons only British threads would bear no 'king resemblance to their actual size

[GrahamNR17]

Went and bought my TCT tent at the weekend. Opted for a pop-up as I HATE tents at the best of times. Vango dart 300DS, reduced to 64 squids from 80.



Positive attributes: Took me 2 & 1/2 minutes to pitch when I got mine home

Negative attributes: Took 1 & 1/2 hours to fold up, running in and out from the computer watching the video to the garden where the tent was to work out how the **** the double folding process was supposed to work

Graham wot changed his name by deed poll to "I yate tents"

[fossil]

will you get your bike in there as well ?

[kwackers]

Is this a record breaking thread yet?

Can't be far off. I've noticed if you use Google to search for something (anything) then one of the posts in this thread turns up in the first page of the search results.
Also according to my calculations this thread now accounts for 0.1% of the entire internet!

[MikewsMITH2]

Will and I are staying in the hostel (twin room) It's cheaper than buying camping stuff
Mike wot thinks lifes too short for putting up tents

[GrahamNR17]

Will and I are staying in the hostel (twin room) It's cheaper than buying camping stuff
Mike wot thinks lifes too short for putting up tents

So you're the reason the rooms were all booked then?

Graham wots makin' notes

[fossil]

I'm sure it all came out of there

but , it makes a nice paper weight