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Re: togglechaintour bikes

Posted: 21 Jun 2011, 6:56am
by GrahamNR17
MikewsMITH2 wrote:I can't do 3/4 taking Will back to Aber

You're driving to Wales - and back - to save Will a walk to the station? :roll:

Re: togglechaintour bikes

Posted: 21 Jun 2011, 8:59am
by steve browne
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Re: togglechaintour bikes

Posted: 21 Jun 2011, 9:02am
by steve browne
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Re: togglechaintour bikes

Posted: 21 Jun 2011, 9:07am
by steve browne
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Re: togglechaintour bikes

Posted: 21 Jun 2011, 9:53am
by MikewsMITH2
You're driving to Wales - and back - to save Will a walk to the station? :roll:

Well more accurately all his (considerable) goods and chattels. He is renting a flat for the next academic year.

Re: togglechaintour bikes

Posted: 21 Jun 2011, 7:44pm
by GrahamNR17
Had my first go on a Brompton today, fitted with a Sturmey AW :D

What's all the fuss about? It was horrible :shock:

Graham, wots a bit miffed that reality ain't like the legend :(
(a bit like 'is Moulton F-frame) :oops:

Re: togglechaintour bikes

Posted: 21 Jun 2011, 7:48pm
by hubgearfreak
GrahamNR17 wrote:What's all the fuss about? It was horrible :shock:


that's what i thought too. steve's green R20 shrek rides better. infact, a standard, unfettled original R20 rides better. just be glad it wasn't you that bought it with your own money - although that was never going to happen was it :mrgreen:

Re: togglechaintour bikes

Posted: 21 Jun 2011, 7:53pm
by GrahamNR17
hubgearfreak wrote:
GrahamNR17 wrote:What's all the fuss about? It was horrible :shock:


that's what i thought too. steve's green R20 shrek rides better. infact, a standard, unfettled original R20 rides better. just be glad it wasn't you that bought it with your own money - although that was never going to happen was it :mrgreen:

I was riding it with a view to buying it :shock: Thank gawd for test rides - phew :|

Re: togglechaintour bikes

Posted: 21 Jun 2011, 7:59pm
by Greybeard
GrahamNR17 wrote:I was riding it with a view to buying it :shock: Thank gawd for test rides - phew :|


Swallow that pride and have a go on Shrek - it could be much cheaper than a briefcase trolley :wink:
Steve

Re: togglechaintour bikes

Posted: 21 Jun 2011, 8:00pm
by GrahamNR17
Greybeard wrote:
GrahamNR17 wrote:I was riding it with a view to buying it :shock: Thank gawd for test rides - phew :|


Swallow that pride and have a go on Shrek - it could be much cheaper than a briefcase trolley :wink:
Steve

I have house room for more bikes, as in bicycles. I have no house room for a R20, or any other kind of wheeled anvil :evil:

Re: togglechaintour bikes

Posted: 21 Jun 2011, 10:25pm
by GavinC
GrahamNR17 wrote:Had my first go on a Brompton today, fitted with a Sturmey AW :D

What's all the fuss about? It was horrible :shock:


I think you have to view them from a portability, rather than a rideability, point of view. If you don't need a bike that folds down small, there's no point in getting a Brompton. If you do then it's ride is acceptable and it all seems worthwhile when you get on a rush hour Tube with your bike. :D

I love mine. But that may because when I use it, I can nearly half the time of my bike only or public transport only commutes. 8)

You're absolutely right that there's no comparison with a Moulton though - but the IMO no other bike I've ridden rides like a Moulton.

An R20 folder is always handy when you need a bike that takes up more space folded than when not :twisted: I'm not sure I can see the point of a non folding R20 at all when you can have an F frame Moulton instead. :D

Re: togglechaintour bikes

Posted: 21 Jun 2011, 10:35pm
by hubgearfreak
spark303 wrote:I'm not sure I can see the point of a non folding R20 at all when you can have an F frame Moulton instead. :D



is it because they're cheaper and ride better? :P

Re: togglechaintour bikes

Posted: 22 Jun 2011, 7:35am
by GavinC
hubgearfreak wrote:is it because they're cheaper :P


I suppose you can get a R20 a bit cheaper than an F frame Moulton and I forgot that some people are are quite happy with any old BSO as long as it's cheap :P

hubgearfreak wrote: and ride better? :P


Bwaa, ha, ha, ha, ha! *checks calendar to see if it's 1st April* :D

Re: togglechaintour bikes

Posted: 22 Jun 2011, 7:47am
by GrahamNR17
hubgearfreak wrote:
spark303 wrote:I'm not sure I can see the point of a non folding R20 at all when you can have an F frame Moulton instead. :D



is it because they're cheaper and ride better? :P

My disappointment with the F-frame is well noted here, but c'mon, I've never once said it rode as hideously as an R20 :roll:

Re: togglechaintour bikes

Posted: 22 Jun 2011, 7:49am
by GrahamNR17
spark303 wrote:
GrahamNR17 wrote:Had my first go on a Brompton today, fitted with a Sturmey AW :D

What's all the fuss about? It was horrible :shock:


I think you have to view them from a portability, rather than a rideability, point of view. If you don't need a bike that folds down small, there's no point in getting a Brompton. If you do then it's ride is acceptable and it all seems worthwhile when you get on a rush hour Tube with your bike. :D

I love mine. But that may because when I use it, I can nearly half the time of my bike only or public transport only commutes. 8)

You're absolutely right that there's no comparison with a Moulton though - but the IMO no other bike I've ridden rides like a Moulton.

An R20 folder is always handy when you need a bike that takes up more space folded than when not :twisted: I'm not sure I can see the point of a non folding R20 at all when you can have an F frame Moulton instead. :D

That all makes perfectly good sense, of course, but I still wanted it to be fabulous so I could be the only one in the village 8)