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Re: Magazine Survey.

Postby fatmac » 5 Dec 2011, 12:14pm

@Si
>>When you posted did you actually see your post on the thread, or on pressing the 'submit' button did the post just not appear?

Having waited, & refreshed my browser several times, it did not appear in the thread.

Have now just been able to post here.
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Re: Magazine Survey.

Postby Si » 5 Dec 2011, 12:19pm

On pressing summit, you ought to have seen a screen asking you if you wanted to view your post, return to the last section visited, etc...did you get this?

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Re: Magazine Survey.

Postby fatmac » 5 Dec 2011, 12:27pm

My ACTUAL POSTS are NOT GETTING THROUGH, however this conversation seems to be.

Now that to me seems very much like censorship!!!
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Re: Magazine Survey.

Postby Edwards » 5 Dec 2011, 12:59pm

fatmac wrote:My ACTUAL POSTS are NOT GETTING THROUGH, however this conversation seems to be.Now that to me seems very much like censorship!!!


I think that as a long term user I can assure you that your post would not have been censored at the time of posting. These things take time and some times somebody else will report the post to the moderators.
I often find that it can take a while for something to get through. I now only click the submit button, if after a count of 15 it has not appeared I will click that again. If I do anything else the post does disappear.

Thanks to Kevin for the reassurance about third parties not being allowed to sell information or to use it for other than the purpose intended.
In the future it might be worth considering explaining exactly what the survey is for and the above assurance.
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Re: Magazine Survey.

Postby fatmac » 5 Dec 2011, 1:07pm

@Edwards
But how can three get through, whilst the other two posts don't?

That is why I think something is going on!

(It proves that it is not at my end)
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Re: Magazine Survey.

Postby The Mechanic » 5 Dec 2011, 1:34pm

It is more likely that it is your browser that has not sent the post. If you press refresh before post gets through,it could get lost in the ether. On the other hand, it could be GCHQ that have you on their watch list. Maybe they are intercepting your posts. :roll:
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Re: Magazine Survey.

Postby fatmac » 5 Dec 2011, 1:40pm

@The Mechanic

So they're only interested in my opinion about the survey?
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Re: Magazine Survey.

Postby fatmac » 5 Dec 2011, 1:49pm

Everything except my actual post, & it's replacement, has got through!
It can't be my browser, or my connection, otherwise they would not have got through.

I'm not a newbie; I don't post on here very often; but this is peculiar behavior to me.
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Re: Magazine Survey.

Postby AlanD » 5 Dec 2011, 2:05pm

The only question I won't answer is the one about salary.

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Re: Magazine Survey.

Postby Si » 5 Dec 2011, 2:16pm

fatmac wrote:My ACTUAL POSTS are NOT GETTING THROUGH, however this conversation seems to be.

Now that to me seems very much like censorship!!!


I was trying to ascertain what was happening to your posts so that we might try to resolve your problems and let you post without hassle. As I said - nothing has been censored. If you are going to start shouting and accusing us of censorship then my enthusiasm to help you may well be somewhat deleted.

As said by someone else - we can only edit a post once it appears on the forum, thus if you did not see your post appear then neither did we, which means that we would have had no opportunity to edit or remove it.

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Re: Magazine Survey.

Postby Edwards » 5 Dec 2011, 2:25pm

fatmac wrote:It can't be my browser, or my connection, otherwise they would not have got through


I am not suggesting it is any of those as I do not know why some of my posts get through and not others.
If any thing it is the smutty funny ones that do not get through for me, the ones I should not have posted seem to.
I have found that sometimes you need to be patient that is all and do not click anything after submit.
Sorry if this does not help.
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Re: Magazine Survey.

Postby JohnW » 5 Dec 2011, 2:28pm

Si wrote:On pressing summit, you ought to have seen a screen asking you if you wanted to view your post, return to the last section visited, etc...did you get this?


So that's it chaps - press 'summit' - and all the time you've been pressing 'submit!

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Re: Magazine Survey.

Postby JohnW » 5 Dec 2011, 2:43pm

Anyway, back to the topic - and thanks to Kevin Mayne for taking the trouble to respond, I think we should appreciate that.

I've thrown the questionaire away, so I can't quote from it, but it did say something about the responses "helping" advertisers. I suppose there's an element of honesty there.

I'm not unhappy about an in-house CTC effort to canvass the opinion of members on the content/nature/quality of it's own in-house members' magazine, and offering an inducement in the form of a 'prize' is fine. However, there is information requested that won't benefit the Cyclists' Touring Club - or I can't see how it would. When I turn up for a club run, no-one asks me how much I earn, or how many bikes I'm going to buy this year - we just set off and ride together. Cyclists, enjoying their time together and enjoying what they do.

Commercialism is involved here - otherwise why ask such questions? - and as for a data-base, why on earth is such information required on a cycling club's data base? I can inderstand why a commercial organisation seeks to have such information and I hope that it can be understood why I, among others, don't want commercial organisations to have such information.

If anyone wants to know my opinion of the magazine, they can have it. My opinion is that it's pretty good - nothing is ever perfect of course, but I think that "Cycle" is OK. Cycling is a broad church, and producing a magazine that will delight every member with every edition is an unrealistically tall order - but it's OK - you're doing allright.
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Re: Magazine Survey.

Postby Si » 5 Dec 2011, 2:55pm

However, there is informnation requested that won't benefit the Cyclists' Touring Club - or I can't see how it would.


Or even 'information' if we are going to quibble about typos :D

I'd suggest one possible advantage to members:

Speaking as someone who sometimes buys advertising space in magazines, knowing various things about the readers is very important to me when deciding which magazine to buy space in. I want to know how much the readers have to spend, their interests, where they are based, etc etc because it all tells me whether or not they are the target market for my products. I expect the magazine to supply reliable information on this.

Thus, if Cycle can demonstrate to its potential advertisers that it does have the readership that will interest them, it will sell advertising space. If it sells more advertising space then less of my subs goes towards the magazine, and more towards campaigning and other member benefits.

I know that some are not happy with the amount of advertising in Cycle, but I believe that that is a different discussion.

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Re: Magazine Survey.

Postby JohnW » 5 Dec 2011, 3:07pm

Si wrote:
However, there is informnation requested that won't benefit the Cyclists' Touring Club - or I can't see how it would.


Or even 'information' if we are going to quibble about typos ...........................


Nice one Si.