Cause and cure for the common cold

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What do you think causes the common cold?

It is caused by a virus, possibly passed from person to person.
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It is the body's natural response to the dropping temperature.
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Re: Cause and cure for the common cold

Postby horizon » 24 Oct 2016, 8:27pm

reohn2 wrote:
FWIW I take 1gram of Vit C a day



a normal, balanced diet provides plenty of vitamin C.


From the article.
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Re: Cause and cure for the common cold

Postby reohn2 » 24 Oct 2016, 8:30pm

horizon wrote:
reohn2 wrote:
FWIW I take 1gram of Vit C a day



a normal, balanced diet provides plenty of vitamin C.


From the article.


And adding vitamin C doesn't do you any harm,but could do you some good :wink:
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Re: Cause and cure for the common cold

Postby NATURAL ANKLING » 24 Oct 2016, 11:32pm

Hi,
I have a deficient immune system but don't take any vitamin supplements.
Her in doors does not have any health issues, ok so slightly anaemic so takes iron tabs but is never tested, insists on taking vitamin supplements.
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Re: Cause and cure for the common cold

Postby syklist » 25 Oct 2016, 7:18am

You know in these post Brexit-vote times the poll really needs another answer option.

"The EU". It has got the blame for pretty much everything else so why not the common cold?

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Re: Cause and cure for the common cold

Postby Flinders » 25 Oct 2016, 3:13pm

stewartpratt wrote:
Si wrote:I always find that I get cold symptoms when I haven't slept properly for a couple of nights. A proper night's sleep then makes them magically disappear.


I get this as well.

(Plus the missus works in a school and the boy goes to nursery... Perhaps we just have colds floating round the house all the time and a shortage of sleep is just enough to drop the immune system below a threshold...)


They say your first year in teaching you catch everything.
Partly because you are exhausted as well, of course.
I wonder if teachers end up with better or worse immune systems than average?

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Re: Cause and cure for the common cold

Postby Flinders » 25 Oct 2016, 3:16pm

Ruadh495 wrote:My personal (and entirely anecdotal experience) is that Vitamin D at a dose approximately double the RDA has a preventative and mitigating effect. That, I think, is why colds appear in the winter season when photomediated Vitamin D production is low.

No idea if it's actually true, but it seems to work for me.


You may have a point there. One winter I worked a lot outside, I reckon I was healthier that winter than just about any year I recall.
But that might be the effect of the moderate regular exercise involved as well.

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Re: Cause and cure for the common cold

Postby Ruadh495 » 26 Oct 2016, 10:10am

reohn2 wrote:
Ruadh495 wrote:My personal (and entirely anecdotal experience) is that Vitamin D at a dose approximately double the RDA has a preventative and mitigating effect. That, I think, is why colds appear in the winter season when photomediated Vitamin D production is low.

No idea if it's actually true, but it seems to work for me.


Do you mean you never get a cold ?

FWIW I take 1gram of Vit C a day I very rarely get a cold,and if I do it's incredibly rare that it's more than a light one ie; a day or two with a runny nose and a day of a it drying out,then it's gone.
I cannot remember the last time I had what I term as a bad head cold that affects my voice and makes me feel ill.


Not "never", no, but my experience is similar to yours, I don't get colds often and when I do they are mild. That's what I mean by both preventative and mitigating. I work in education and around this time of year everyone collapses. For the past ten years or so that "everyone" included me. Then about three years ago I started taking regular supplements and have escaped since (not always a good thing, I end up doing their work as well as mine...) . Mine's a multivitamin, so C as well, plus a fish oil which also includes D, hence the double dose. The reason I think it's D is that is the only one that normal diet doesn't provide. D requires either sunlight or supplements. Sufficient sunlight is simply not available in Britain between September and May, so supplements.

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Re: Cause and cure for the common cold

Postby horizon » 26 Oct 2016, 12:07pm

Ruadh495 wrote:
I work in education and around this time of year everyone collapses. For the past ten years or so that "everyone" included me.


That's due to "huddling" according to the Guardian. Is huddling prevalent in your school at this time of year?
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Re: Cause and cure for the common cold

Postby Vorpal » 26 Oct 2016, 1:28pm

I think that it's common for people to be exposed to cold viruses. They either donæt catch them because they are immune through previous exposure to that strain or a similar enough one, or their immune system fights it off.

When I do get ill, it is often following high stress, exhaustion, or other things that may (even slightly) compromise my immune system. I suspect where the idea of colds coming from cold came from is one of two or maybe both things. Either the above theory about lack of vitamin D and people being in more; or the possibility that getting really, shivery cold, and staying that way for more than a few minutes, could cause your body to divert energy from the immune system to keeping you warm, and would therefore leave you open to coming down with something that was already in your system.

It has been my experience that even if I am otherwise healthy, if I run too many days on too little sleep, or really overdo it on a long ride, or catch something else (e.g. norovirus) that is often followed 3 - 4 days later with a cold.
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Re: Cause and cure for the common cold

Postby AlaninWales » 26 Oct 2016, 3:15pm

horizon wrote:
Ruadh495 wrote:
I work in education and around this time of year everyone collapses. For the past ten years or so that "everyone" included me.


That's due to "huddling" according to the Guardian. Is huddling prevalent in your school at this time of year?

Well, probably yes.
Gather together in (dense) groups; To crowd together, as from cold; "a small group of people or things that are close together: A small group of people stood in a huddle at the bus stop.". Seems a perfectly reasonable thing to say happens more at this time of year and to ascribe as a cause for passing on more viruses.

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Re: Cause and cure for the common cold

Postby Ruadh495 » 26 Oct 2016, 3:23pm

horizon wrote:
Ruadh495 wrote:
I work in education and around this time of year everyone collapses. For the past ten years or so that "everyone" included me.


That's due to "huddling" according to the Guardian. Is huddling prevalent in your school at this time of year?


It's a specialist FE college, and "huddling" behaviour amongst students is more common in the spring...

The theory is that we have a new intake in September each year, drawn from a wide area and bringing every strain of the virus available. "Fresher's Flu" is the usual term.

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Re: Cause and cure for the common cold

Postby 531colin » 26 Oct 2016, 7:52pm

The nature of viral infections, and the reaction of the human body to viral infections was being worked out in the eighteenth century.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Jenner#Invention_of_the_vaccine

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Re: Cause and cure for the common cold

Postby mercalia » 26 Oct 2016, 8:15pm

for all those oaps and retirees here, since stopping work do you think you get a cold less these days?

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Re: Cause and cure for the common cold

Postby reohn2 » 26 Oct 2016, 8:27pm

mercalia wrote:for all those oaps and retirees here, since stopping work do you think you get a cold less these days?


No,it's definitely since I started taking Vit C
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Re: Cause and cure for the common cold

Postby reohn2 » 26 Oct 2016, 8:33pm

Ruadh495 wrote:Not "never", no, but my experience is similar to yours, I don't get colds often and when I do they are mild. That's what I mean by both preventative and mitigating. I work in education and around this time of year everyone collapses. For the past ten years or so that "everyone" included me. Then about three years ago I started taking regular supplements and have escaped since (not always a good thing, I end up doing their work as well as mine...) . Mine's a multivitamin, so C as well, plus a fish oil which also includes D, hence the double dose. The reason I think it's D is that is the only one that normal diet doesn't provide. D requires either sunlight or supplements. Sufficient sunlight is simply not available in Britain between September and May, so supplements.


I'd never heard of Vit D as a cold/virus preventative/immune booster.
Mrs R2 has/had a slight Vit D deficiency and was advised to take a supplement and so has been doing for about 9 months,but hasn't noticed any difference,though she doesn't get colds often and rarely gets a bad one,she doesn't take Vit C either but drinks lots of orange juice. :)
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