Jimmy Savile

[JohnW]

Well actually Pete, although it's difficult to believe considering the wording of my post, I'd not misunderstood, and my post was intended to convey the same. I'm sorry if I've apparently connected you with something that you didn't mean. I didn't mean to do it.

No prob - I thought what you said was both funny and true. As some have said she did to the country what he did to under age girls.

Pete that was good, clever and funny - and appersite. She hasn't been caught in her lifetime either - yet. They're similar even to the grave - there's talk about a state funeral for her, and look at the song-and-dance he got.

But to be serious - just how bad was this guy? He courted the nation's admiration and affection whilst all the time knowing what he was doing. What have all those girls been through down the years?

[whoops]

Quote: "But to be serious - just how bad was this guy? He courted the nation's admiration and affection whilst all the time knowing what he was doing. What have all those girls been through down the years?"

I'm wondering that. In the newspaper today a young lady said: "And on another occasion . . ." ?

Once, in the 1940's a dirty old man made a pest of himself to us kids [without giving away to much detail!]. BUT he only did it just the ONCE!

[meic]

So the NSPCC is saying he is probably the worst serial sex offender ever, the Police are investigating 200 potential victims of the abuse.

Am I correct in thinking that he would have passed a CRB check right up to his dying day?

[thirdcrank]

An enhanced CRB check - necessary for anybody working with vulnerable people - includes any info the police have about the subject, in addition to criminal convictions and formal cautions. That was introduced to avoid the Soham situation, where a lot of information about Huntley's involvement with young teenage girls was known to police and IIRC destroyed or at least withheld because of the chief constable's interpretation of the data protection legislation.

I've no idea what info was available about JS.

[danfoto]

Once, in the 1940's a dirty old man made a pest of himself to us kids [without giving away to much detail!]. BUT he only did it just the ONCE!

And in the following decade, a local known as Nutty Edgar started flashing us kids of a summer evening. We dealt with it quite satisfactorily by keeping a constant watch while we were playing in the street and the park, then as soon as anybody saw him, we'd all chase him off yelling "Edgar! Edgar! Show us your willy, Edgar".

Worked a treat. He soon lost his enthusiasm.

[kwackers]

When I was a lad the pedo's simply parked their cars near the school gates, bag of sweets in hand.
Everyone knew who they were, our parents would warn us and we'd warn the kids who didn't know.
Bizarrely it was all a bit of a joke and they were folk to be pitied rather than reviled.

[Shootist]

[danfoto]

When I was a lad the pedo's simply parked their cars near the school gates, bag of sweets in hand.

Wasn't it Mike Harding who immortalised the cry "Take the Smarties and run!"?

[pete75]

Wrong politician mate. JS was a great friend of Mrs Thatcher spending 11 consecutive new yeras with her at Cheuqers. Wouldn't be surprised if her influence played a part in protecting him.

[reohn2]

I can only think that JS and Mrs T complemented each other
Personally I really can't think of two people I would rather not be stuck in a lift with,one would be found dead,and the other with a large cigar sticking out of an uncomplementary orifice when the firemen opened the doors,to which I'd answer "not me gov"

Oh! just thought of another,he's in the photo with JS

[gilesjuk]

So the NSPCC is saying he is probably the worst serial sex offender ever, the Police are investigating 200 potential victims of the abuse.

Am I correct in thinking that he would have passed a CRB check right up to his dying day?

More sensationalist rubbish, Savile has a long way to go to be worse than this man:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20014945

[pete75]

So the NSPCC is saying he is probably the worst serial sex offender ever, the Police are investigating 200 potential victims of the abuse.

Am I correct in thinking that he would have passed a CRB check right up to his dying day?

More sensationalist rubbish, Savile has a long way to go to be worse than this man:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20014945

The NSPCC said Savile may have been "one of the most prolific sex offenders" it had come across.

I don't think that statement either rubbish nor sensationalist.

[Shootist]

No surprises about this latest arrest (Paul Gadd), but...

Elsewhere the deputy leader of the Labour Party Harriet Harman has called for a judge-led inquiry into the Savile abuse claims.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20114378

Perhaps she might figure prominently in it too.

Before she became an MP, Harriet Harman was the legal officer in the late 1970s for the National Council for Civil Liberties. When Miss Harman joined NCCL in 1978, PIE, the Paedophile Information Exchange, had already been affiliated for three years. Another group, Paedophile Action for Liberation, a Gay Liberation Front offshoot, had also been affiliated to NCCL until it was absorbed by PIE. PIE, which campaigned for adults to have sex legally with children, only broke off its relationship with NCCL when it went undercover in 1982, the same year that Harriet Harman left her NCCL post to become Member of Parliament for Peckham.

NCCL people were earlier involved in keeping the name of an NCCL council-member, Jonathan Walters, out of the People newspaper when it ran an exposé of Paedophile Action for Liberation, of which he was secretary, in 1975. The People still ran the story, but Walters was not named.

Even more extraordinary is the fact that a current Cabinet Minister was running the National Council of Civil Liberties at the time all this was going on.

The Rt Hon Patricia Hewitt MP, Secretary of State for Health, became General Secretary of NCCL in 1974. The very next year, 1975, NCCL invited the Paedophile Information Exchange and Paedophile Action for Liberation to affiliate. In the year after, 1976, the now-notorious paedophile Tom O’Carroll was invited to address the NCCL conference, which promptly voted to ‘deplore’ the use of chemical castration treatments for paedophiles.

http://www.christianvoice.org.uk/index.php/archives/1832

[JohnW]

Shootist -

Words fail me - all I can think is "Bloody 'ell !!!".

[Shootist]

Shootist -

Words fail me - all I can think is "Bloody 'ell !!!".

Those words will do nicely enough for now.