Does anyone else find........

[Si]

Take plastic packaging for example: brilliant science goes into the chemistry of making them. Recycling? Scientists are clueless about the people putting it in bins bit.

Plastic bags are one of the best inventions ever, scientists can be very proud of that creation. I can still remember when a plastic bag was valued.

Another example! Plastic bags are neither good nor bad until they are observed, indeed, with out humans being present they are not even plastic bags, and then it needs to be the right humans. The nature of 'plastic bag' is not inherent within the article itself, but in how it is experienced and the habitus of the observer. again demonstrating the disconnection between the physical universe and the observation of it.

Not an example at all. Horizon and I were making general social observations not scientific ones.

Impossible to seperate the two.

[meic]

Not within any reasonable definitions of impossible and separate.

It is pretty common practice to keep them separate.

[Si]

Or rather, it is common practise to believe that you can keep them separate.