Top Gear Protests

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Top Gear Protests

Postby sore thumb » 3 Oct 2014, 6:01pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-29474422


"The crew of BBC's Top Gear are leaving Argentina after facing protests over a number plate which appeared to refer to the 1982 Falklands War.

The team, including host Jeremy Clarkson, have been filming in South America for a Top Gear special.

The show apparently provoked anger among locals by using a Porsche with the registration number H982 FKL.

The BBC confirmed the show's decision to leave, but denied the offending car was chosen for its number plate."



"Andy Wilman, executive producer of Top Gear, said on Thursday: "Top Gear production purchased three cars for a forthcoming programme; to suggest that this car was either chosen for its number plate, or that an alternative number plate was substituted for the original is completely untrue."



"It was reported their cars had been abandoned by the roadside and the crew were escorted to the airport, after being pelted with stones.

Clarkson flew into the country earlier last month to film a special which saw him and co-stars Richard Hammond and James May drive the famous Patagonian highway - Route 40 - to the southernmost city of Ushuaia.

Reports in the South American press suggested the Top Gear crew had left the country amid angry protests from politicians and war veterans, and demands for their withdrawal from Argentina."

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Re: Top Gear Protests

Postby al_yrpal » 3 Oct 2014, 7:36pm

That should be worth watching, the RGs are rather piqued at losing and don't like being reminded. Bear in mind that British cruise ships are greeted by chanting knuckle draggers down there accompanied by piles of burning tyres.

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Re: Top Gear Protests

Postby 661-Pete » 3 Oct 2014, 8:39pm

Here is the opposite point of view, from the largest-circulating Argentinian newspaper:
http://www.clarin.com/politica/BBC-Isla ... 78044.html
(If you can understand the Spanish - if not, there's always Google!)
I'm not all that fluent in Spanish, but even I can read there a reasonably balanced account of the whole affair. Unlike some opinions that will no doubt be surfacing in Little England...

It's high time the odious JC and his cronies were cast adrift. My worry is, if the Beeb dump him (and surely they've got enough reason to, now!) he'll merely be snapped up by one of the rival TV outfits...
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Re: Top Gear Protests

Postby Psamathe » 3 Oct 2014, 9:07pm

661-Pete wrote:It's high time the odious JC and his cronies were cast adrift.

I would agree. Beyond time he was dropped.

661-Pete wrote:My worry is, if the Beeb dump him (and surely they've got enough reason to, now!) he'll merely be snapped up by one of the rival TV outfits...

Undoubtedly he would. Constrains being, commercial channels might be a bit more constrained about the vast sums of money he seems to be getting from the BBC (after all, it only makes sense to the commercial channels if they can generate the income from the programs).

Also, depends on what aspects of the program the BBC own. For example, if the BBC own the "Top Gear" name, then whilst Clarkson could come-up with a new name, it would take time and money to establish the new name, increasing the risk (lowering the reward).

But what is really depressing is that enough people seem to thrive on such twaddle. Has humanity sunk so low ...

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Re: Top Gear Protests

Postby blackbike » 4 Oct 2014, 12:20am

I don't mind the existence of rubbish like Top Gear but I think it's a bit much that the state ensures the funding of such stuff.

Surely the provision of such dismal products can be a private matter between the sad souls who want to watch it and private TV companies.

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Re: Top Gear Protests

Postby c53204 » 4 Oct 2014, 7:48am

I don't believe the state funds Top Gear, it buys the right to show it from Bedder6 (major share hders including Clarkson). Although the BBC did try to buy the production company for £14m. Not sure if that happened or not.

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Postby Lance Dopestrong » 4 Oct 2014, 8:21am

Top Gear is the most profitable programme the BBC have. They make many times its cost in profit selling it around the World. For this reason Clarkson would have to be caught eating a dead orphan before they'd sack him, and if they did any profit hungry commercial channel would bite his fingers off at the shoulder.

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Re: Top Gear Protests

Postby mark a. » 4 Oct 2014, 9:13am

Both the production team and Clarkson insist that the number plate was a coincidence and they changed it once they noticed it. Clarkson also says that the "protesting war veterans" were actually 20 year old thugs.

I'm not sure what the real story is, but I doubt we're getting it from the newspapers, which much prefer the most sensationalist interpretation.

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Re: Top Gear Protests

Postby Mick F » 4 Oct 2014, 9:16am

I care not a jot.
Can't stand the man or his programme.

I've voted with my feet and no longer have a telly. If more of the population did this, the better.
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Re: Top Gear Protests

Postby TonyR » 4 Oct 2014, 9:19am

661-Pete wrote:Here is the opposite point of view, from the largest-circulating Argentinian newspaper:
http://www.clarin.com/politica/BBC-Isla ... 78044.html


Google Translate gets it right although it's spelling is a little off:

" English journalist Jeremy Clarkson sheet"

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Re: Top Gear Protests

Postby Bonefishblues » 4 Oct 2014, 9:25am

Clarkson et al causing a furore.

Who'd a thunk it?

A bell? Must be time for dinner then.

Like it or not, you've got to admit the persona that is Clarkson is one of the great fictional character creations of our time, courtesy, AIUI of the ex Mrs C :)

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Re: Top Gear Protests

Postby Psamathe » 4 Oct 2014, 9:27am

mark a. wrote:Both the production team and Clarkson insist that the number plate was a coincidence and they changed it once they noticed it.

And I suspect his entire audience believe him. However, those who see the world as it really is ...

In practice, given the response he could hardly say anything else. Can you imagine the outcry if he now said "we thought doing it deliberately would be a bit of a laugh and in the true spirit of Top Gear".

And I'm sure his mate Dave (of the Chipping Norton set) will be leaping to his defence any moment now.

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Re: Top Gear Protests

Postby Bonefishblues » 4 Oct 2014, 10:49am

Psamathe wrote:
mark a. wrote:Both the production team and Clarkson insist that the number plate was a coincidence and they changed it once they noticed it.

And I suspect his entire audience believe him. However, those who see the world as it really is ...

In practice, given the response he could hardly say anything else. Can you imagine the outcry if he now said "we thought doing it deliberately would be a bit of a laugh and in the true spirit of Top Gear".

And I'm sure his mate Dave (of the Chipping Norton set) will be leaping to his defence any moment now.

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Must be an remarkably homogeneous and unusually stupid demographic, I guess :wink:

I'm not sure either way. It is however a fact that that was the original plate on the Porsche.

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Re: Top Gear Protests

Postby 661-Pete » 4 Oct 2014, 11:43am

mark a. wrote:Both the production team and Clarkson insist that the number plate was a coincidence and they changed it once they noticed it. Clarkson also says that the "protesting war veterans" were actually 20 year old thugs.

I'm not sure what the real story is, but I doubt we're getting it from the newspapers, which much prefer the most sensationalist interpretation.

Thing is, the peculiarly English fetish with personalised number plates (plus the fact that they are very easy to contrive under the British system) is presumably very well-known and easy ammo for anglophobes the world over. In many other countries this obsession is virtually unknown - I've never seen anything even approximating to a personal plate on a French car. All right, I know that in countries like the USA you can simply buy any sequence of letters you like, but it's pretty obvious that you've done that. I don't know what the vehicle numbering system is in Argentina.....

So - yes - the number plate could have been coincidental - the year of the car (1991 Porsche 928) does check out against the H prefix (1990-1991). But someone with a morsel of PR savvy must surely have noticed the coincidence beforehand - and maybe they mischievously thought to themself, "let's play this one... :twisted: "

Anyway it'll be interesting to see if JC gets his final final warning over this. Or is it "(final)^10 warning"?
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Re: Top Gear Protests

Postby Paulatic » 4 Oct 2014, 12:13pm

The car doesn't show on gov.co.uk site as being taxed or tested or indeed existing. Does this mean it's a fictitious number or registered somewhere else?

Regarding personalised number plates I recall Josie Dew reciting many while travelling New Zealand.
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