Summer Plans?

[mjr]

If you're going to have certification it seems smart to have a single app that covers both TTI and certification.

How does it seem smart to you? It seems to me like it would limit uptake of a simple certification app to those willing and using the few phones able to run the exposure tracking apps, similar to how the UK has messed up on the check-in app. It is so little used that now even NHS sites here have the (large, slow to scan) check-in QR codes partially hidden and unscannable and no-one seems to notice.

[willem jongman]

For progress on the Dutch corona app:
https://github.com/minvws
community #Code4NL

[PaulaT]

According to Prof Sharon Peacock, director of the UK's genetic surveillance programme, the Indian variant was first detected in the UK in October last year. That it has failed to gain a foothold indicates to me that it's probably no more transmissible than the Kent variant - possibly less transmissible. It's still very much an unknown whether it can evade the immune response and what the consequences of such evasion might be. Could it induce severe disease or would any infection be mild/asymtomatic? Lots of unknowns just as with the SA and Brazilian variants.

[willem jongman]

True.

[mjr]

According to Prof Sharon Peacock, director of the UK's genetic surveillance programme, the Indian variant was first detected in the UK in October last year.

Are you sure about that? https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-56813025 says "Prof Sharon Peacock, director of the UK's genetic surveillance programme, Covid-19 Genomics UK, said the variant had been around for "some time" and was first identified in October last year." The report noticeably does not say it was identified or detected in the UK then.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk- ... n-12276830 says B.1.617 was detected in the UK "in the days leading up to 14 April".

So while I hope that your "failed to gain a foothold" will turn out to be correct, it seems a bit early to declare it!

True.

Nope. Check before you post!

[willem jongman]

Will do. Do we have data on the facts?

[glucas]

This report indicates that specimens of B.1.617 dated from February were detected in the UK. There were 77 cases. I think this indicates that it could not have been detected in the UK in October. So the October date must refer to when the variant was detected in India. And then of course it travelled to the UK.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... n-february

[willem jongman]

It says explicitly that the first specimens in the UK were found in February.

[glucas]

Yes, correct:

"This report indicates that specimens of B.1.617 dated from February were detected in the UK"

[mattheus]

We're drifting a fair way from the post that started this. But it's your thread Mr Lucas.

Hello,

I never realised there was a forum for touring and I am very happy to have found this site!

I am 51 with 2 kids and reluctant travelling wife (except for 5 star hotels in exotic locations), so last year I did the Pennine Way trail when the lockdown was eased in July (my very first touring trip):

https://www.komoot.com/collection/88821 ... ghest-ride

It was absolutely amazing! Can absolutely recommend to anybody who has never done it. It took me 11 days.

I took a roadlite Canyon - which was a beginners mistake . I have since changed to a Canyon Pathlite 4, and am planning further adventures.

Would be interested to find out if anybody is planning any European adventures, particularly in light of Covid. I have the Eurovelo map in front of me, (working from home), and am eyeing up Eurovelo 15, starting from Andermatt. Getting lots of flak from family though - who want me to give abroad a miss this year - so am looking to do the tail end of Eurovelo 12 from Inverness up to the Shetland islands - maybe.

Would be very interested to find out what people are doing?

Best

Graham

[willem jongman]

Back from where we started. Assuming there is a possibility for some cross border cycling in the EU at some stage during the summer, and assuming you would take the Harwich Hook of Holland ferry, this is an interactive map of many cycling routes all starting from the Netherlands: https://www.europafietsers.nl/fietsrout ... sweb#kaart
For tours within the Netherlnads, see this route planner: https://en.routeplanner.fietsersbond.nl/
Campsites in the Netherlands may be crowded, of course, but less so if international travel will be easier again.

[glucas]

We're drifting a fair way from the post that started this. But it's your thread Mr Lucas.

Hello,

I never realised there was a forum for touring and I am very happy to have found this site!

I am 51 with 2 kids and reluctant travelling wife (except for 5 star hotels in exotic locations), so last year I did the Pennine Way trail when the lockdown was eased in July (my very first touring trip):

https://www.komoot.com/collection/88821 ... ghest-ride

It was absolutely amazing! Can absolutely recommend to anybody who has never done it. It took me 11 days.

I took a roadlite Canyon - which was a beginners mistake . I have since changed to a Canyon Pathlite 4, and am planning further adventures.

Would be interested to find out if anybody is planning any European adventures, particularly in light of Covid. I have the Eurovelo map in front of me, (working from home), and am eyeing up Eurovelo 15, starting from Andermatt. Getting lots of flak from family though - who want me to give abroad a miss this year - so am looking to do the tail end of Eurovelo 12 from Inverness up to the Shetland islands - maybe.

Would be very interested to find out what people are doing?

Best

Graham

Actually Mattheus, we are not drifting. Summer plans are dependent on knowing what the covid situation is. So it's relevant.

[mattheus]

Actually Mattheus, we are not drifting. Summer plans are dependent on knowing what the covid situation is. So it's relevant.

Fair enough - your call!

[glucas]

Well - not wanting to be argumentative. I know the dangers of going off topic and it's a pain in the backside for people clicking on a thread, wanting to see something relevant and then it goes off on a tangent.

However, I am still interested in knowing if anybody is still planning anything - and others maybe too. Obviously because the Covid situation is really fluid. Most people of course are not risking anything stupid and sticking to the UK at this point. Some have said September maybe for a continental foray.

[Jdsk]

However, I am still interested in knowing if anybody is still planning anything - and others maybe too.

I'm sure that lots of people are following this, and that it's contributing to their own plans.

Jonathan