Touring in the 50's

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With regard to the qualty of the rear racks, I think that prior to Blackburn racks coming onto the market in the 1980s, rear panniers had tended to be smaller, like those in the photograph below of a Rough Stuff Fellowship trip. Karrimor made bigger rear panniers in the late 1970s, but the number of people who bought them was probably tiny compared with the percentage of cyclists who have a pair of large panniers nowadays for commuting, shopping or touring. The vast majority of the racks of that era were never designed or intended for the sort of loads often carried in a pair of large panniers, which was presumably what drove Karrimor to make their own racks for a while before the Blackburn racks and copies came on the market..

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My first touring rack (carrier) was a Blackburn. It was the recommended rack, probably from the CTC mag. I hadn't realised it was so ground breaking. Bought from Spa in 1990 along with Super C's and camping gear.

I do remember the floppy carriers on previous bikes sometimes with that spring loaded flap.
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When I went off hostelling in 1972 - 5 I had a rear carrier rack (and may still have it).
The panniers were a kind of patterned plastic, and I've a vague recollection they were sold as 'suitable for mopeds and bicycles '.
I've no idea where I got the rack from, I doubt I'd have bought it new, and I'm pretty certain it was unbranded.
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My (few!) forays into cycle camping in the late 1950s used a rack similar to the one up-thread and two Govt surplus army "webbing packs" - on a gas-pipe bike with 4 speed Cyclo Benelux rear mech and single chainring on the front (my best mate had a "double clanger" on the front with the old style twist lever on the seat tube)

Those were the days - time marches on and my tourer is now Ti with a Ti rack and Ortliebs - but no camping :D
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freiston wrote: 24 Sep 2021, 11:42pmBefore my cycling days, I remember using 1950s (or earlier?) canvas "bivouac tents" with poncho groundsheets when camping with the CCF.
The Night Exercises from Kinloss carrying ammunition boxes. How we laughed.

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I started cycle touring in 1981, an exciting time for camping and outdoors activities as new fabrics were just getting going. I'd done DoE 'expeditions' with Vango Force 10 canvas tents, using an old canvas rucsac and and 'Icelandic Mummy' sleeping bag. We were very excited about Karrimats when they arrived! My first tent was a strange one, pyramid shaped with two poles and a second door in the inner to a storage space. A good design for lowland camping but blown to pieces in Glencoe. Then I got an 'Ultimate Tramp' much to the amusement of my uni friends! (I was anything but!) I'd bought a Trangia for £16 and lugged the huge thing around, with a Sigg bottle or meths, for years. I always took a book, and suitable scale maps for cycling were more available then. No Sustrans routes! I dread to think how much this all weighed, no wonder I pushed up many Scottish hills. (I had a 5-speed Raleigh Winner!) But no radio, phone, MP3 player, battery bank, etc., that I consider essential now.
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Some nice pictures there of life in a bygone era, but I couldn't see anyone with a primus stove stored on the infamous Terry's primus clip. :lol:
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similar experience to slowroad above, we cycled round Scotland in '85 with a big tent spread between 3 of us, the 4th person carried the cooking gear.
10 speed bikes with bottom gears way too big for my legs now.
Did we still have fun......yeah we did. :D
One thing springs to mind tho, has the modern tourist gone super lightweight so that they can carry all the tech around and is the overall weight the same because of it? I would imagine not quite but it's n interesting concept.
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My first proper bike had a floppy rack. It had 3 attachment points, one on each side of the rear dropouts and one at the top of the seat tube. IIRC there was a metal tab that was attached at the seat pin bolt.
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You lot 'ad it easy! Lived in t'cardboard box, 'handful of hot gravel for breakfast. Worked 30 hour days, got up before we went to bed.....
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climo wrote: 28 Sep 2021, 2:34pm You lot 'ad it easy! Lived in t'cardboard box, 'handful of hot gravel for breakfast. Worked 30 hour days, got up before we went to bed.....
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Capstick on a bicycle - except we were too poor to have bikes
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climo wrote: 28 Sep 2021, 2:34pm You lot 'ad it easy! Lived in t'cardboard box, 'handful of hot gravel for breakfast. Worked 30 hour days, got up before we went to bed.....
:D
Ahhh, those were the good old days, gone forever, back before the Normans wasn't it ?
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If you have a look at the National Cycle Museum Webpage there's a photo of a 50's camping themed exhibit there.
Better still, come and see it for yourself.! :lol:
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9494arnold wrote: 1 Oct 2021, 7:34pm If you have a look at the National Cycle Museum Webpage there's a photo of a 50's camping themed exhibit there.
Better still, come and see it for yourself.! :lol:
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