Front Lights (not on the handlebars)

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Re: Front Lights (not on the handlebars)

Postby psmiffy » 29 Jul 2016, 11:23pm

Audax67 wrote:This Christmas-tree was my initial go at a set-up for PBP last year, you can just about see the Topeak effort under all the junk. I did simplify it later.



I'm setting up a bike at the moment for touring - Ixon IQ is to be my main light with a 530 as a backup - I assume looking at your photo that you have more than one set of wires coming from the hub - light and supplementary power? how do you bring that up the fork without it looking like a loada spaghetti?

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I'm new to hub dynamos - one of the questions in the back of my mind is that if it starts to deluge then the area around the hub will be get a little damp - does that affect anything? or are there "special precautions " you can take?

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Re: Front Lights (not on the handlebars)

Postby PJ520 » 30 Jul 2016, 2:04am

horizon wrote:I keep reading this thread and still can't find out why the OP didn't want the normal solution for barbag/lights:

https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/accessories ... -mm-0-deg/

Was it looks or not having a threadless stem or what? What have I missed?
Unless the top of the bar bag is below the top of the steerer tube I can't see how this can work. Even if is below the top of thr tube it looks like it will interfere with opening the bag
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Re: Front Lights (not on the handlebars)

Postby Bmblbzzz » 30 Jul 2016, 10:49am

Indeed.^ Though if you have current standard ("oversize" 31.8mm) handlebars it could presumably clamp to them, for which it does look neater and stronger than the Minoura and Topeak items.

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Re: Front Lights (not on the handlebars)

Postby horizon » 30 Jul 2016, 12:02pm

The bar simply stacks on the stem and takes the place of a spacer. The bar bag is thus above the lighting bar - neither interferes with the other. The lights of course are below the bar bag although are in effect hung upside down. I still don't see the problem*.


* Unless the OP has an older threaded stem as these lighting bars only fit the new threadless stems.
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Re: Front Lights (not on the handlebars)

Postby PJ520 » 30 Jul 2016, 2:43pm

Sorry I said steerer tube I should have said stem. My Ortlieb bag clamps to the bars: its top is above the stem its bottom about 2" from the mudguard. Still can't see how I could use it.
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Re: Front Lights (not on the handlebars)

Postby Bmblbzzz » 30 Jul 2016, 6:27pm

I can only really see it working in the way Horizon describes with either an extremely small bar bag or a very high steerer. I guess it's no coincidence then that this is sold by SJS, home of Thorn!

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Re: Front Lights (not on the handlebars)

Postby PJ520 » 30 Jul 2016, 6:35pm

Bmblbzzz wrote:I can only really see it working in the way Horizon describes with either an extremely small bar bag or a very high steerer. I guess it's no coincidence then that this is sold by SJS, home of Thorn!
Thanks I was thinking I was missing something.
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Re: Front Lights (not on the handlebars)

Postby horizon » 30 Jul 2016, 9:38pm

Pete Jack wrote:
Bmblbzzz wrote:I can only really see it working in the way Horizon describes with either an extremely small bar bag or a very high steerer. I guess it's no coincidence then that this is sold by SJS, home of Thorn!
Thanks I was thinking I was missing something.


We haven't heard from the OP. He may have a very short stack above the headtube; he may have a very deep bar bag. My barbags are standard old Karrimors but I do have high stacks. However the system works a treat (certainly does for me) so I would still like to know what the exact problem is with the OP.
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Re: Front Lights (not on the handlebars)

Postby thayer19 » 30 Jul 2016, 10:51pm

Hi all

In regards to the thorn T bar, I assume the handlebar bag goes on to the t bar and the lights on the handlebars? My main gripe with that is having a messy 'cockpit' really, I think I'm going to go down the fork mounted light route. This initial thread was really sparked as a result of a lack of choice for that option when you don't have a dynamo fitted.

My current thinking is b+m iq 40 or the cateye hl135. The cateye mount looks a bit cleaner and the b+m would also necessitate bring another charger etc etc for the batteries. Does look a good light though.

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Re: Front Lights (not on the handlebars)

Postby horizon » 30 Jul 2016, 11:24pm

thayer19 wrote:Hi all

In regards to the thorn T bar, I assume the handlebar bag goes on to the t bar and the lights on the handlebars?


No, it's the reverse. At least it is for me. It's a neat, elegant, practical solution.
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Re: Front Lights (not on the handlebars)

Postby Bmblbzzz » 31 Jul 2016, 2:03pm

That ^ might work but two problems spring to mind: it'll be difficult to access the bar bag while riding and you might have a bar-bag shadow at night. The first might not be a problem for you, depending what you use the bar bag for, the second was my experience when using a bar bag on the handlebars and a light on a Minoura Space Grip above the bars – obviously it's going to depend on precise light/bag configuration. But certainly I'd go with light below bag (or as you say, on fork crown).

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Re: Front Lights (not on the handlebars)

Postby steford » 1 Aug 2016, 9:49am

I quite like the cheap chinese torches for camping that come with a bike mount also. I like to be at my campsite by dusk but in an emergency it's perfect and means I don't need to carry extra items. I wouldn't use them for serious night rides.

https://www.7dayshop.com/products/7days ... 7DS-ML-214